The SNES Players Club

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From: Fleck | Posted: 12/29/2003 2:25:30 PM | Message Detail

There are a few of us that have started this in another thread, but decided it deserves a topic of its own. Here is the concept: It's almost like a book-of-the-month club except we are playing SNES games together.

Here are the Rules:

1) We play a new game every time the previous one has been beat (The last game was Y's III. You can check the SNES RPG topic for comments from all of us as we played through).

2) Each member, upon his/her turn gets to pick the next game. You get to pick a game in the order that you sign up. So far the sign-up list looks like this:

Fleck (Ys III: Wanderers from Ys)

PatrickPS2 (next to pick)

Teath/Camden

Math Deity

TechMaster

Delin

Mr. Crispy

Z3RO SoE

3) The person whose game it is sets a certain "Check point" that everyone must get to in the game before we move on to next and so on and so forth until we have all beaten the game. We used a specific FAQ on the game previous to this which worked out great because you could set the checkpoint on a certain chapter of that specific FAQ/Walkthrough.

4) The person who picks the game posts the name of the next game to be played and we all wait 24 hours for people to sign up (actually you may join in whenever, but we're just trying to establish some sort of direction, really). Then we play.

5) You are free to talk about your feelings on the game (which is kind of the point, don't you think?), but if you are going to post ANY kind of spoilers, please give fair warning. We don't want the game spoiled for anyone who hasn't quite caught up.

6) EVERYONE is welcome to join in. Whether you are actually playing along with us or you just want to chat about the actual game that is being played at the time, you are more than welcome to chat with us.

7) Any game is acceptable, but within reason. We probably won't have a whole lot of people signing up to play Super Tecmo Bowl through a whole season.

8) The game MUST have some sort of save feature. If we can't save and return to the point where we are all supposed to meet, then there will be WAY too much repetitive gameplay. Let's stick to the ones we can all play semi-together.

So, PatrickPS2 is the next person to pick the game. As new people join in you will be added to the list and your turn will come as you are signed up. Let's have some fun!!! Y's III was a blast this way, and I know we can keep the good times rollin'. (Wow, closing with a cliche... I'm losing it...)

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From: jimjim142 | Posted: 12/29/2003 3:22:19 PM | Message Detail

Fleck I love the idea so guess what....

Im in!

Ok but I have a question what if I choose the game and it doesnt have a save feature but it can be played and beaten in one sitting. Now does that work???

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From: TechMaster | Posted: 12/29/2003 4:10:32 PM | Message Detail

Technically, any game could be beaten in one sitting (applies to most games) so my guess would be no.

Example: Math beat Ys3 in one sitting, although most of us wouldn't be able to do that. (note: he did it on the real snes too) If Ys3 doesn't have a save feature, then it wouldn't have been chosen. (Math had to do it since the game's save battery was probably low in charge)

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 12/29/2003 4:11:39 PM | Message Detail

jim and Fleck - most everyone will probably be using *cough*roms*cough*, so save states will probably work.

i'm actually debating between 3 games- Star Ocean, Romancing Saga 3, and Lord of the Rings.

Star Ocean because its sequel for psx rocked, Romancing Saga 3 because Saga Frontier was next in the series and it rocked, and Lord of the Rings because i just want to be able to say i've beaten that game.

Star Ocean i won't pick because the Dejap translation isn't going to be ready in time, plus i know Camden is going to pick it; he's after me, and the translation should be done by his turn.

Lord of the Rings i won't pick because i've started the damn game about 30 times, swearing i'd play it through each time, but never had the patience. maybe someone will pick it later, i guess.

So i'll go with Romancing Saga 3. i've only played about 5 minutes into it before, and it seems to be more plot-oriented than its successors, but it still manages to have the cool skill/spell learning system that i enjoyed in SF & SF2.

So that's my pick, Romancing Saga 3. i'm not familiar with the game at all, so if there's anyone who is, let's let them pick the stopping points. if no one who signs up is familiar with it enough, then i'll read through a walkthrough and find some checkpoints for us. i hope yall are happy with my pick, and if not oh well- you'll get your turn. :P

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From: Delin | Posted: 12/29/2003 4:39:42 PM | Message Detail

Didn't expect this going until later. Anyways I'll start looking for Romancing Saga 3 and if I must, which will probably happen, I'll get the ROM.

Just to reiterate what Fleck said any game is okay as long as it has a plot. No sports games please and as a personal favor to me no shooters, not because I don't like them, I just am terrible at them (poor reflexes and tunnel vision).

Also, a heads up for everyone, the majority of the games we play when we first start out will probably be RPGs. It's not necessarily that RPGs are better it's just that this topic came from an RPG one and most of us, I think, like RPGs best.

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From: Fleck | Posted: 12/29/2003 5:00:03 PM | Message Detail

Sweet! Here's the new list:

Fleck (Ys III: Wanderers from Ys)

PatrickPS2 (Romancing SaGa 3) (Current Game)

Teath/Camden

Math Deity

TechMaster

Delin

Mr. Crispy

Z3RO SoE

jimjim142

It looks like I will be playing from my computer as well. I might try hooking it up to my TV, so I can at least have the experience of playing it like that. This week may be tough because I am sure we will all have hangovers of some kind on Thursday, so you might want to set the first check point earlier on the game than you normally would. Also, Patrick, pick a FAQ/Walkthrough here on GameFAQs and post the link so that we will all be on the same page.

jimjim, whatever game you choose is probably going to be fine, but a game that can be beat in one sitting may not generate the same amount of conversation and interest as a game that takes us all a little bit of time. Plus, you may not get as many people to play. Just a thought. I guess we'll cross that bridge when we get there.

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From: Mr Crispy | Posted: 12/29/2003 5:03:42 PM | Message Detail

Romancing SaGa 3 is on my list of games to beat (along with most of SaGa Frontier and Unlimited SaGa... I'm really far behind on my favorite series... lol), so I'm in.

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From: Z3RO SoE | Posted: 12/29/2003 5:07:54 PM | Message Detail

and Lord of the Rings because i just want to be able to say i've beaten that game.

You forgot to add, "On Emulator"... With Save States, a little kid can beat that game...

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 12/29/2003 5:16:43 PM | Message Detail

it's not that i couldn't beat it for the difficulty, it's that the game tends to be somewhat repetitive battle-wise. it gets boring, basically. that's why i can't beat it. no patience. :P

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From: Fleck | Posted: 12/29/2003 5:20:29 PM | Message Detail

I heard that game was pretty damn hard. Of course, after beating Ys III, I could probably tackle it.

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From: TechMaster | Posted: 12/29/2003 5:31:03 PM | Message Detail

Well, I'm definitely going to be walkthrough heavy for this one. (didn't really read a lot of the Ys3 walkthrough...no wonder I would miss that final ring eh XD)

Why I would pay more attention to walkthroughs in this one? Well, I tried it before, and had myself going into some areas that I'm not suppose to go into...and got myself pretty much into a place where I'm way too weak to continue...

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 12/29/2003 5:43:20 PM | Message Detail

yeah... if it's anything like Saga Frontier (which it is, duh, it's SF's predecessor), then you can go almost everywhere possible from day 1. these games are very non-linear. i'll probably be following the walkthrough word for word. :P

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From: Solid Snake 1138 | Posted: 12/29/2003 5:49:07 PM | Message Detail

Hey, I'm bored. Might as well join in on the fun...

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 12/29/2003 6:01:39 PM | Message Detail

ok here's the walkthrough, it's by D. Thompson:

http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/snes/file/romancing_saga_3_a.txt

this game might be a little difficult to do for us. i was reading through the walkthrough, and it seems this game is just as non-linear as Saga Frontier. so there really aren't any definite stopping points. all the stories overlap, yet they don't all have the same goal, it seems. so i was thinking maybe we could pick stopping points by number of subquests? like say: 3 days for 3 subquests. or something like that. sound good?

here's another thing i was thinking. this game, as i said before, is VERY non-linear. the story changes depending on the character you pick as your main, along with other things. let's see... there are 8 main chars, so why don't we all volunteer to each play a different char? if we end up with more than 8 people playing, we can double up. this way we can make sure we have most every aspect of the story covered, and we'll be able to discuss the story(ies) from all sides. sound good?

here's a list of the main chars and their stats as written by D. Thompson is his FAQ/Walkthrough:

Julian The Grean haired Guy. Main Character

Str: 18 Dex: 17 Spd: 17 Con: 15 Int: 16 Wil: 22 Char: 14 LP: 10

Thomas The guy in an orange cape. Main Character

Str: 17 Dex: 15 Spd: 18 Con: 19 Int: 20 Wil: 13 Char: 19 LP: 10

Harid The only black character. Main Character

Str: 21 Dex: 12 Spd: 20 Con: 17 Int: 15 Wil: 19 Char: 20 LP: 10

Michael Wears big purpleish armor. Main Character

Str: 16 Dex: 17 Spd: 19 Con: 15 Int: 18 Wil: 21 Char: 21 LP: 10

Elen Big Pony-Tail, blue pants. Main Character

Str: 21 Dex: 14 Spd: 18 Con: 15 Int: 15 Wil: 18 Char: 20 LP: 10

Sarah BIG poofy hair. Wears yellow. Main Character

Str: 17 Dex: 19 Spd: 21 Con: 13 Int: 20 Wil: 11 Char: 21 LP: 10

Katarina Messy White Hair. Purple-Blue-Green Outfit. Main Character

Str: 17 Dex: 21 Spd: 23 Con: 18 Int: 10 Wil: 16 Char: 17 LP: 10

Monica Wears Pink and a short lil skirt. Main Character

Str: 14 Dex: 19 Spd: 20 Con: 14 Int: 16 Wil: 17 Char: 24 LP: 10

if yall end up wanting to do it this way, then i call Katarina as my main char.

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From: TechMaster | Posted: 12/29/2003 6:49:41 PM | Message Detail

I call Thomas then.

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From: Teath | Posted: 12/29/2003 6:54:47 PM | Message Detail

You guys are going to finish this before I finish the first one.

I call Sarah.

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 12/29/2003 7:09:59 PM | Message Detail

ok cool so yall want to do it this way? i think it'll be better like this, good.

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here's the list:

Julian - ?

Thomas - TechMaster

Harid - ?

Michael - ?

Ellen - ?

Sarah - Camden

Katarina - me

Monica - ?

...

keep signing up! :)

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From: Mr Crispy | Posted: 12/29/2003 7:21:54 PM | Message Detail

I guess I'll pick Julian...

Though what I've heard from people who have already beat it that the stories are mostly the same after a while.

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From: Fleck | Posted: 12/29/2003 7:22:29 PM | Message Detail

I guess I'll take Julian.

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 12/29/2003 7:34:41 PM | Message Detail

we've a conflict... Mr. Crispy got his post in about 30 seconds earlier, so he gets Julian, i guess. let's try to not double up until we have all the spots filled up.

and the stories might end up kinda similar; i only skimmed over the walkthrough. but from what i read the chars seem to have different stories. i might be wrong though. but at least this wa9"3"3

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 12/29/2003 8:10:28 PM | Message Detail

good... i was hoping Harid wouldn't be singled out. that would be racism, you know. :P

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Julian - Mr Crispy

Thomas - TechMaster

Harid - Fleck

Michael - ?

Ellen - ?

Sarah - Camden

Katarina - me

Monica - ?

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we need 3 more... Delin, jim, Solid? that's perfect... yall pick your char. no rush though, we won't officially start until tomorrow night.

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From: Camden | Posted: 12/29/2003 8:19:19 PM | Message Detail

that would be racism, you know

<bad joke>Michael used to be black too!</bad joke>

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 12/29/2003 8:28:52 PM | Message Detail

haw haw haw! *slaps knee* :P

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From: math deity | Posted: 12/29/2003 11:37:44 PM | Message Detail

Michael maybe... I hated Saga Frontier and suspect I'll have to emulate to play it.

Was this released in the States? Gamefaqs says it was but no copies are available on ebay and digitalpress.com doesn't list it as a US release.

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From: Camden | Posted: 12/29/2003 11:57:19 PM | Message Detail

Nope, no stateside release. A translation exists, and save for a few small parts, is supposed to be completed.

http://donut.parodius.com/func=trans&platform=snes&gamekey=342

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From: math deity | Posted: 12/30/2003 12:12:03 AM | Message Detail

garr, thanks

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From: Delin | Posted: 12/30/2003 5:15:39 AM | Message Detail

Uhh, I choose Monica, if my computer stops locking up. I'll see if I can get it to work right and tell you later.

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From: Delin | Posted: 12/30/2003 5:38:19 AM | Message Detail

Yes! I got my stupid computer to work. Anyway back on-topic. What are you going to do with your job? Are you going to pick one that makes your strengths stronger, makes you weaknesses stronger, or are you going to pick one that makes your other attributes stronger?

I'm not sure what I'm going to do yet. I'll think about it today.

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 12/30/2003 5:40:23 AM | Message Detail

ok so:

Julian - Mr Crispy

Thomas - TechMaster

Harid - Fleck

Michael - math deity

Ellen - ?

Sarah - Camden

Katarina - me

Monica - Delin

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yeah there's no 100% complete translation, but i've heard the Sword of Mana translation there is damn near it. enough to play the game through. that's good enough for me.

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 12/30/2003 5:42:58 AM | Message Detail

in the D. Thompson walkthrough it says that it will have the char's normal job highlighted right after you pick them. so that's probably what job/class i'm going to use. the walkthrough also says the jobs don't affect anything about the game, story-wise. so you're free to choose without much consequence.

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From: TechMaster | Posted: 12/30/2003 6:22:58 AM | Message Detail

Spoilers...

Just don't do what I did when I first tried it. I went into that rathole without the poison... Ouch... (boss requires the poison to beat, and I can't get out of the cave, and guess what that means)

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From: jimjim142 | Posted: 12/30/2003 9:13:30 AM | Message Detail

Well the game I want can be beaten in 1 hour so...

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From: jimjim142 | Posted: 12/30/2003 9:15:38 AM | Message Detail

Michael Wears up in here

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From: jimjim142 | Posted: 12/30/2003 9:16:25 AM | Message Detail

nm I will take Ellen

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 12/30/2003 12:29:40 PM | Message Detail

ok cool we've got every char covered. good good.

Julian - Mr Crispy

Thomas - TechMaster

Harid - Fleck

Michael - math deity

Ellen - jimjim142

Sarah - Camden

Katarina - me

Monica - Delin

anyone else who wants to play can choose any char they want, since we have them all covered now.

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we officially start tonight... but like Fleck said i'm sure everyone's going to be a little hungover on friday. since i have no idea how long the quests are, and since we have so many people this time around (we'll probably pick up another 1 or 2 before tonight), let's just have the opening quest for each char done by friday. does that sound good?

i know everyone's schedules are going to be different, that's why we'll take it slow. everyone just post when you're done with the opening quest, and if it turns out that we're going too slow, then we'll pick up the pace a little bit.

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we don't start until tonight, though, just in case more people want to play. so everyone keep signing up!

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From: Teath | Posted: 12/30/2003 5:48:53 PM | Message Detail

(boss requires the poison to beat, and I can't get out of the cave, and guess what that means)

Loading an earlier save state? Probably not, huh?

Off-topic: What works best to take the sting out of a burn? I'm currently holding a can of soda, but every time I sit it down, it starts flaring. There has to be a better way.

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From: Teath | Posted: 12/30/2003 11:28:47 PM | Message Detail

Has everyone started?

Also, ignore my earlier post. Duct tape worked fine.

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From: Agent Bond34 | Posted: 12/31/2003 4:23:40 AM | Message Detail

7) We probably won't have a whole lot of people signing up to play Super Tecmo Bowl through a whole season.

I would do that.

From: Fleck | Posted: 12/31/2003 6:32:06 AM | Message Detail

I have started. I am just through the opening sequence and fighting for the first time. I've killed about six of those wolf things. I probably won't have time to really play again until tomorrow, though.

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From: math deity | Posted: 12/31/2003 7:02:39 AM | Message Detail

I probably won't start playing for a few days. I'm almost finished with Dual Hearts and one of my friends just gave me Knights of the Old Republic for Christmas. I gave him 2 pitchers of booze :)

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 12/31/2003 8:07:19 AM | Message Detail

man... i went out last night and didn't get to play, i won't get to play tonight either... maybe we'll push back the deadline a bit, since you guys won't seem to be able to make it either... how about the opening quest done by the end of the day saturday? sound good?

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From: math deity | Posted: 12/31/2003 8:15:01 AM | Message Detail

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From: TechMaster | Posted: 12/31/2003 8:24:21 AM | Message Detail

I got some time and finished the opening quest. I guess I'll just keep training since I'll need it for the later side quests.

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From: Delin | Posted: 12/31/2003 9:11:47 AM | Message Detail

I just finished the introduction quest. I'll wait for you guys to catch up.

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From: Delin | Posted: 12/31/2003 9:11:47 AM | Message Detail

I just finished the introduction quest. I'll wait for you guys to catch up.

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From: Teath | Posted: 12/31/2003 12:37:35 PM | Message Detail

maybe we'll push back the deadline a bit, since you guys won't seem to be able to make it either... how about the opening quest done by the end of the day saturday? sound good?

When does the opening quest end? I haven't even looked at the FAQ yet. I cleared the first screen, beat the weak boss, had a little talk with someone, and I'm in the middle of the next area.

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From: Delin | Posted: 12/31/2003 2:13:32 PM | Message Detail

I think that that's pretty much it. At least that's where I am now and am waiting.

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From: Camden | Posted: 12/31/2003 3:03:51 PM | Message Detail

I just got to the first town, so I'll stop for a little bit. Two questions to anyone who is there, if the other characters all go there.

Is there an easier way to earn money? I'm only getting four gold a fight, and the spells cost 1500-2000 gold each.

Second, am I the only one who likes it when you can see your footsteps in the snow? It's a small detail, but it's always stood out as the extra mile for me.

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From: TechMaster | Posted: 12/31/2003 3:33:14 PM | Message Detail Spoilers???

The intro act doesn't end until the war ends.

Fleck will have an easier intro than we do. Why? Well, since he's using Harid as main character he'll get into a war instead of having to go to that castle of the vampire. (intro wise, he got the easiest intro)

And yes, I liked that snow detail as well. Little details like that are always a plus in the graphics.

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 12/31/2003 3:44:26 PM | Message Detail

off-topic- is anyone here using an actual snes controller attatched to their 25 pin printer port? i just got one in the mail (yeah i have to pay someone to make me one, i don't know how), and the guy tested it and it worked perfectly, but it won't work on mine. i installed NTPad and everything just like he told me how, but it just won't work. can anyone help me?

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 12/31/2003 3:44:59 PM | Message Detail

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From: Camden | Posted: 12/31/2003 3:59:41 PM | Message Detail

The intro act doesn't end until the war ends.

I guess I haven't been paying much attention to the story. Which war was this?

Patrick: No idea. I'm not computer savvy enough to figure out something as simple as that.

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 12/31/2003 4:07:12 PM | Message Detail

dammit. if i can't get this thing to work i probably won't even play my own damn game. i HATE using a keyboard to play snes. can you tell i'm frustrated? damn my computer illiterate-ness!!

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From: Camden | Posted: 12/31/2003 4:18:33 PM | Message Detail

Patrick: If you're not going to play the game because you have to use a keyboard, then how did you play the games before it.

Off-topic: I became a Veteran on New Years Eve. That's kind of neat.

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 12/31/2003 4:20:34 PM | Message Detail

it's the fact that i now have a controller that i know can work if i just install it right or fix whatever i'm doing wrong. it sucks :P

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From: Mr Crispy | Posted: 12/31/2003 4:35:20 PM | Message Detail

I got to the snowy town last night. Haven't played since though. At least I figured out why games weren't displaying properly. Had to disable the "New Graphics Mode" for whatever reason.

And yes, I thought the footprints were a nice touch. ^_^

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From: Fleck | Posted: 12/31/2003 4:44:20 PM | Message Detail

Great. I got the easiest intro and I am the one moving the slowest. I am not going to be able to play until Friday becasue I left my laptop at work. DAMMIT!!! Oh, well. I'll just play the crap out of it on Friday and catch up a bit.

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 12/31/2003 4:52:58 PM | Message Detail

ha! it's my game and i haven't even started yet. damn myself! damn this controller!

*realizes he needs to go easy on the alcohol*

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From: TechMaster | Posted: 1/1/2004 6:41:36 AM | Message Detail

You know, after seeing all three of those walkthroughs I found that the middle one is probably the best. I'm suggesting we change to that instead.

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 1/1/2004 7:53:05 AM | Message Detail

yeah i didn't like that one because it isn't organized well, text-wise. there would be entire pages of non-spaced text. but after reading over it, you're right, it is organized much better as far as quests are concerned. thanks for pointing that out. i agree with Tech, we should switch, if yall can deal with the huge paragraphs this guy writes.

http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/snes/file/romancing_saga_3_c.txt

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 1/1/2004 12:27:50 PM | Message Detail

ack! i just realized that i'm using an only partially translated version of RS3. does anyone know if there's a fully translated version out there? i'm not asking for you to tell me where it is, just if there's one out there.

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From: TechMaster | Posted: 1/1/2004 1:30:43 PM | Message Detail

If you checked Whirlpool there is no full translation out there. Mana Sword seems to be the best out there and I'm using it as well.

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/1/2004 5:13:01 PM | Message Detail

You know, after seeing all three of those walkthroughs I found that the middle one is probably the best. I'm suggesting we change to that instead.

I'm not using any of them. None of them cover nearly enough information for how I play.

Patrick: You can ask for translations, it doesn't violate the ToS. http://donut.parodius.com has a translation that's complete enough to play, though it isn't completely finished.

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 1/1/2004 5:56:33 PM | Message Detail

oh i know that... i just said that because i didn't want anyone to put a link to a full rom or anything in there.

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From: Teath | Posted: 1/1/2004 6:24:02 PM | Message Detail

Well, if someone is stupid enough to give out a rom link, they deserve the karma loss. The ToS isn't that long.

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From: math deity | Posted: 1/2/2004 2:52:35 AM | Message Detail

I've decided to pass on this game. ROMs are to much of a pain for me. I'll do the next though.

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From: Delin | Posted: 1/2/2004 6:08:27 AM | Message Detail

I made it to the town. The snow effects are great. I thought the foot prints were an excellent touch. I still have to goto the cave and do that. It looks like I picked out the longest of the intros.

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 1/2/2004 8:28:49 AM | Message Detail

well, i've only played a few minutes into the intro. i'm not even out of the castle yet. i guess i just kept putting it off waiting on the email from that guy about help with NTPad (still waiting)... but my intro's supposed to be kinda short, so i'll catch up.

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 1/2/2004 8:30:38 AM | Message Detail

oh math deity-

i'm pretty sure Camden's next and i'm also pretty sure he's going to pick Star Ocean. you'll probably need a rom for that, too... might as well join in now and get used to them.

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/2/2004 2:38:42 PM | Message Detail

I've decided to pass on this game. ROMs are to much of a pain for me. I'll do the next though.

Yes, like Patrick said, I'm next. Unless there is something particular someone else wants to play, I'll be choosing Star Ocean.

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From: Delin | Posted: 1/2/2004 5:04:31 PM | Message Detail

Hey guys I'm not going to be at the end of the intro until tomorrow night at the earliest. I though I'd have plenty time to play today, but things got in the way. Why did i have to choose the longest intro. Arrgh!

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/2/2004 6:38:23 PM | Message Detail

Delin: I'm not done my intro yet either. I'm not even sure when the intro ends. Tech said something about it ending when the war ends, but I don't have any idea what war that is.

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 1/2/2004 6:42:04 PM | Message Detail

i'm not done with mine either. :P hmm... well, the deadline is tomorrow night, but if that's not happening, then just tell me and we'll extend it accordingly.

so what do yall think of the game so far? i like it. i love the way you learn skills. you can be in a battle and seemingly out of nowhere you learn a skill! it's kind of exciting. massive fun skill learning system.

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/2/2004 9:34:48 PM | Message Detail

Saga Frontier was better. It's better than a lot of games.

I can't seem to learn techs hardly at all. This is what I've learned at the end of the first cave. Sarah file.

Sarah-Rude Sword, Double Mist, Parry

Julian-Sweep Down, Double Mist, Parry

Ellen-Tomahawk

Thomas-Shadow Sew, Id Break, Random Arrow

Monica-Leg Sweep, Stone Sweep, Double Stab

For anyone else playing the same intro as me, do you have anything better?

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/3/2004 12:13:27 AM | Message Detail

Nevermind, my people are better now, though the current monsters are qwning me. 200 damage to a single character or 60 to everybody. Ouch. Oh, I found the end to the starting quest. Too bad I'm even farther now...

In case you want more help than any of the Gamefaqs walkthroughs, this one is a question and answer faq that looked pretty helpful.

http://infinimana.com/rs3/docs/Walkthru_1.1.htm

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From: TechMaster | Posted: 1/3/2004 5:42:19 AM | Message Detail

Well, besides for certain areas, I think monsters get stronger as you get stronger. My suggestion would be don't venture into areas that it's obvious some place you won't be able to handle...

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 1/3/2004 9:23:20 AM | Message Detail

where was the end that you found, Camden?

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 1/3/2004 11:00:20 AM | Message Detail

according to this walkthrough, the endings for every introduction are when all the chars get to Loanne and have received their reward for helping Monica. after this, you can talk to the other main chars and get some of them to join you. after this, the walkthrough just has independent quests listed. so that's where our stopping point is tonight- where everyone meets in Loanne. can everyone do that? if not, post back and we'll extend the deadline.

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/3/2004 4:18:42 PM | Message Detail

My suggestion would be don't venture into areas that it's obvious some place you won't be able to handle...

I was doing some quest where I was supposed to enter the Devil Palace or something, and find a kid. After I found him, I was supposed to leave, but I just went and looked everywhere in there.

Patrick: I passed that point up a few hours ago. I'll stop and let people catch up. I like how I was the farthest back on Ys3, but I'm the farthest in this.

Current HP/Techs

Sara 349: Parry, Rude Sword, Double Mist, Cross Slash, Flying Water Cut, Dragon Tail

Poet 311: Same as Sara

Sherbert 296: Same as Sara

Ellen 327: Tomahawk, War Cry, Skull Crush, Big Logs Chop, Hyper Hammer

Nora 376: Stone Stab, Leg Sweep, Aiming, Double Stab, Brain Split

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From: Mr Crispy | Posted: 1/3/2004 5:04:38 PM | Message Detail

I guess I'm at the end of Julian's intro... I ended up alone in some town shortly after everyone met up in the castle, and I can talk to people to get them to join me.

I guess I'll wait for everyone else to catch up.

It seems very similar in battle to SaGa Frontier so far...

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/3/2004 5:14:02 PM | Message Detail

I bought a few spells. I then figured out that I can't get the -1 WP crown if a spell is allocated. I go back, have her remove two of the spells. The third spell is in blue, and doesn't show up in the removal list. Does anyone know how I get rid of it?

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 1/3/2004 5:49:28 PM | Message Detail

cool... well starting tomorrow, let's do say... 3 independent quests by say... Wednesday? sound cool? check the walkthrough that Tech suggested for a list of independent quests.

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/3/2004 8:35:19 PM | Message Detail

cool... well starting tomorrow, let's do say... 3 independent quests by say... Wednesday? sound cool? check the walkthrough that Tech suggested for a list of independent quests.

I guess I'll just finish the one I'm on then.

If there's anybody else who is out of the intro, do you know how to get rid of Sherbert? She won't stay at the pub, and she's cramping my style.

PS: God damn ****ing Cowboys...

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 1/3/2004 10:10:38 PM | Message Detail

Sherbert? i wonder if we have a different translation... i have a crappy char named Crepe in my team... is she a girl that you got to join by talking to her and she'd run just out of the screen 2 or 3 times? and she has a Teddy Bear permanently attached to her?

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/3/2004 10:46:27 PM | Message Detail

That's her. She gives you a different name each time you pick her up. If you sail to Labrif, or something like that, she says she doesn't want to go, and will drop from your party until you pick her up again.

I know I said I was going to stop, but I got carried away. All of my people have over 600HP now...

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 1/3/2004 10:59:25 PM | Message Detail

hehehe it's all good... it's a fun game. you really won't be leaving anyone behind story-wise until you get into closing the gates. i believe.

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/3/2004 11:03:56 PM | Message Detail

Sara + Backstab = 900 damage. Yay!

Did anyone ever figure out how to dump the magic spells that appear in your magic list as blue? I bought it and can't get rid of the damn thing.

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From: Delin | Posted: 1/4/2004 10:25:20 AM | Message Detail

I see if I can get done by tonight. We took an unexpected trip to my aunt's yesterday and I got no playing time. I'll try to get to the end by tonight.

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From: AltarCrystal | Posted: 1/4/2004 10:45:40 AM | Message Detail

hmmm...I really want to join, but right now I don't have a working SNES ><

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From: Delin | Posted: 1/4/2004 11:14:09 AM | Message Detail

That's ok for right now. The game we are currently playing was never released in the US. So, most if not all are playing translation ROMs. It might be too late, but I'm not sure I think since Patrick choose the game he should decide.

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From: Delin | Posted: 1/4/2004 11:31:34 AM | Message Detail

I'm done with the intro. I skipped the shipwreck part by choosing to run away. So, are we proceeding with one side quest a day or will it be something else?

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From: AltarCrystal | Posted: 1/4/2004 11:48:50 AM | Message Detail

I'll just wait untill the next game, I can join then, correct?

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 1/4/2004 11:57:54 AM | Message Detail

Delin-

we're doing 3 independent quests as listed by the walkthrough Tech suggested (scroll down) by Wednesday. that should be easy enough... i hope. we're on a tentative schedule, so tell me if that's too fast for ya.

AC-

join in right now, if you'd like. fire up the rom and get right into it! we're really not too far into the game right now. we go really slow because everyone has different schedules, school, work, and are probably playing other games. plus, Romancing Saga 3 is a very non-linear game. you should be able to jump right in. but it's up to you.

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 1/4/2004 12:24:01 PM | Message Detail

i have a question-

what does it mean when it says "<skill> tech mastered?" for example, Poet just learned 'blunt strike.' he used it a couple times, then this me —•"' —•"'

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 1/4/2004 1:47:45 PM | Message Detail

press select! that brings up the menu where you change eq, techs, magic, items, config, and you can save. it also has a list of events you are currently participating in.

also, i believe in Harid's you travel with Mikhail (Michael) back to Loanne and fight a boss with him. after that, you can find the other main chars around Loanne and get them to join you. that's the end of the intro.

we're now working on getting 3 independent quests as written by the walkthrough suggested by Tech by Wednesday. think you have time for that, Fleck?

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From: Fleck | Posted: 1/4/2004 1:56:55 PM | Message Detail

What button is select on zSNES? (Can you tell I have little to no experience with pROgraMS?)

Yeah, Wednesday should be alright for me. If not, I'll catch up at some point. Don't worry about me, I won't read anything I think will be a spoiler. It looks like I will be the Camden of this game.

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 1/4/2004 3:08:46 PM | Message Detail

on my computer, it's right shift. i *think* that's the default setting, but i may have changed it. if it's not, then go up to Config, Input #1, then click in the black box next to Select and press which key you want it to be. or you can just click Set Keys and you can configure them all.

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From: Fleck | Posted: 1/4/2004 4:18:41 PM | Message Detail

Has anyone beat those damn rats yet?

Spoilers:

I got the rat poison and went back to find Nina in the cave with the rats, but I can't beat them. The FAQ says something about hitting the section that doesn't take damage from the rat poison. I keep doing that, but I get waylaid before the fourth round. Any help?

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 1/4/2004 4:26:49 PM | Message Detail

i'm not on that subquest yet...

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/4/2004 5:32:05 PM | Message Detail

I'll just wait untill the next game, I can join then, correct?

You can join, but most likely you'll have to play the next game on rom as well.

what does it mean when it says "<skill> tech mastered?" for example, Poet just learned 'blunt strike.' he used it a couple times, then this message popped up right after he used it the second or third time: "blunt strike tech mastered." what does that mean? i thought once you learned a skill, you had it, and that was it.

Normally when you learn a skill, it will disappear if you remove it. Once you've used it enough, you'll master it. This means you can remove it without losing it, and it will be available to everyone from now on.

What button is select on zSNES? (Can you tell I have little to no experience with pROgraMS?)

It's RShift for me, but you can change the keys in the controller menu.

It looks like I will be the Camden of this game.

*chortle

Has anyone beat those damn rats yet?

I haven't done that quest, but it shouldn't be that hard. Everyone in my party hits for over 1000 damage each now.

3rd asking: Has anyone figured out how to remove the magic spells that appear in your menu as blue?

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 1/4/2004 5:35:27 PM | Message Detail

i was trying to remove Thomas' spell (i forget what it's called) earlier. i don't think it's possible when they're blue.

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/4/2004 5:46:15 PM | Message Detail

It's not. Someone at the RSaga3 board just informed me of that.

Fleck: Here is the rat section from the walkthrough I'm using.

The "correct" way is more fun. Examine the cave's door when it is closed. You will have a short chat with the Mayor. Examine the door again. Go to the rats and fight them for 1 or 2 rounds, and then run from the battle. Now go back to the door at the cave's entrance and Nina will open the door. Go to the West Forest and talk to the Professor. She will give you an item called rat poison. Go back to Kidlanto and talk to the Mayor. He will mention that Nina is being sacrificed in place of you. Go to the Offering cave, remove the rock and go in to fight the rats again. Note that music would be different this time. With the rat poison in your backpack, each rat will be damaged in each round except the genius rat. Target your attack to the rat that has received no damage from the Rat poison. It has about 2500HP.

The important step that many people miss is that one has to examine the cave door before fighting the rats. One should check the cave door at least 2 times until the dialogue remains the same. Now, one can go fight the rats. If you run and return to the cave door, Nina will appear and open the door for you.

If you forget to do so, you can always examine the door and then fight the rats again. It's annoying to go back and forth the dungeon, but you don't have to restart the game.

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/4/2004 6:19:43 PM | Message Detail

Fleck: I just finished the rat quest, but I still can't help you.

I didn't even go get the poison, I just completely obliterated them in the first round!

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From: Fleck | Posted: 1/4/2004 7:11:16 PM | Message Detail

I obviously have a lot of leveling to do. My people only do 50-250 damage per hit with techs. Maybe I should go to Lance and do those quests first? I just figured while I was there, I would do the sidequest.

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/4/2004 7:32:42 PM | Message Detail

Maybe I should go to Lance and do those quests first?

How do you even get to Lance? It's not on the ship list.

Yes, that's probably why you're having trouble beating them. My people are doing 1000-1300 a hit with their best techs, or they can do 600-700 on hit-all techs. My basic weapon swings are doing 200.

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From: TechMaster | Posted: 1/4/2004 7:51:16 PM | Message Detail

Spoilers???

Yeah, I was powering up as well while waiting for you guys. I'm around Camden's lv with a five men team (don't have emulator open so oh well). I noticed that the quests are tough (the bosses) only before you powered your characters up. I finished that side quest with one of the missing kid that was around Muse. I think my next one would be Muse's dream. I'll most likely lvl up my characters a bit more in there. (note: enemy in Muse's dream drop an item that completely heals the party. Great way to stay in the side quest and power characters up.)

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/4/2004 8:43:02 PM | Message Detail

Tech: I was over leveled there as well. I never needed to use the items, because I could run those beasts without using any Techs.

When you went to rescue the kid, did you explore the rest of the area? This was the first quest I went on, so the enemies at the bottom were shredding me. Especially the five snake ladies guarding the transporter. Not fun when I only had 200HP a person.

I've found that it's hard as hell to master 10WP techs. After 8 uses, I'm off to the inn already.

My team right now is Sara, Ellen, Poet, Nora, Sharl.

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/4/2004 11:43:01 PM | Message Detail

I noticed that the quests are tough (the bosses) only before you powered your characters up.

Note to other players: Until you get a certain item, do not be traveling down to the bottom of the vampire Leonard's castle. Until you get the item, it's pointless.

There is also a really tough boss that wrecked my party in a few rounds. It recovers 1000HP a turn, gets two attacks a turn, can do 150-200 damage to all characters on one of it's attacks(so twice), and has a hit all that puts a status effect on all your characters. I think it was confusion. Im not sure because I got killed after he used it...

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From: Delin | Posted: 1/5/2004 6:49:56 AM | Message Detail

I just beat the side quest where you got to go find the kid. I'll probably beat another tonight.

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 1/5/2004 11:04:41 AM | Message Detail

I've a couple questions-

first off why do i get ambushed on 9 battles out of 10? i thought it was maybe the way i was making contact with the enemies to engage battle, but that's not it. then i tried changing my formation because maybe it was a secondary effect of it, but tha'ts not it. so what is it?

secondly, what's the deal with gaining stats? do more powerful monsters really make you gain stats (level up) quicker? i've noticed that it doesn't really matter the power of the monster, you'll gain 1-2 stats every battle, then maybe 1 battle out of 6 or so you'll gain alot of stats (5 or 6). do you get what i mean? is this true?

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/5/2004 12:17:29 PM | Message Detail

first off why do i get ambushed on 9 battles out of 10

If you RUN into an enemy, it causes ambushes. I had problems with that earlier. It lets them go a little quicker, and lowers your defense, so you'll want to walk into the enemies.

secondly, what's the deal with gaining stats?

How the hell do I gain stats from battle. The only thing I can get are HPUp, TechUp and <weapon>Up. Can you get normal stats to go up in battle?

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 1/5/2004 12:19:44 PM | Message Detail

ahh... that's what i meant, sorry (hpup, techup, <weapon>up). i didn't even think about normal stats. i have no clue.

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From: Fleck | Posted: 1/5/2004 2:32:33 PM | Message Detail

Where the hell is jimjim?

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From: Delin | Posted: 1/5/2004 2:39:08 PM | Message Detail

He hasn't posted since we started.

I currently have a good sized party, but we aren't very strong. I've got Julian, Sara, the poet, Monica (my character), and Thomas. I think I'll play some more later on and try to do some more quests. One thing I do hate about this game is how hard it is to get money. Each enemy drops only a few gil. It makes it very hard to equip your party.

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/5/2004 3:03:45 PM | Message Detail

Delin: I was having money issues, but I just looked, and I have 10,000. I made good money somewhere.

My characters and techs:

Sarah 686/Poet 693- DimensionCut 3WP, Backstab 7WP, GushingWind 8WP, Satsuki Rain 10WP

Ellen 677- Megahawk 6WP, DynamicHit 8WP

Sharl 678/Leonid 666- GreatWheel 5WP, DoubleDragon 6WP, SpiralCharge 7WP

Everyone has Hypnotize Dodge and Random Arrow Dodge

My favorite quote from the game:

"Wait! I'm not only smart, I also have the utmost beauty, which mixes with my wisdom in perfect proportion. You can call me a beautiful genius! With such perfection, it's a sin not to let others know about my existence."

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From: Delin | Posted: 1/5/2004 4:42:39 PM | Message Detail

Where did that come from? That's hilarious.

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/5/2004 5:25:04 PM | Message Detail

There is a scientist in the West Forest, the place where you can do the animal catch quest.

I passed that quest up, I think. She just repeats a one line message now.

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 1/6/2004 11:40:24 AM | Message Detail

does anyone see a pattern in learning skills? i know they learn skills in a semi-order (least powerful to most powerful), but is there a sort of points system to learning these skills? like JP in FFT?

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/6/2004 7:31:23 PM | Message Detail

No, it's random. Though when you fight really strong enemies, you have a higher chance of learning skills.

Spoilers

By the way, I was just wandering around looking for quests, and I started fighting in old dungeons. I found one of the gate guardians at random. They're supposed to be really tough, but I beat him using basic attacks. Sad really...

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 1/6/2004 7:33:42 PM | Message Detail

lol. you're beating the last bosses. :P darn you. well, if you're going to get ahead on my game, at least don't start on Star Ocean yet. you definitely HAVE to pick that as the next game. :P

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From: TechMaster | Posted: 1/6/2004 7:37:30 PM | Message Detail

Spoilers???

Lol. I finished Muse's dream. I then went and sorta kicked the rat's ***. (although I did get the poison, the poison is just to determine which part of the rat you're gonna attack that's all)

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/6/2004 8:10:10 PM | Message Detail

I wasn't fighting the final boss on purpose!

Spoilers

You get a pirate in the game, too! He sucks, but he's a pirate, so he's in my main party. You can also get a snowman!

I was looking at the walkthroughs for pretty much the first time, and it was talking about how the abyss guards were hard, and the dragon bosses were hard. I already beat an abyss guard and four dragons without healing or losing a character.

/Spoilers

Is there any real reliable source of healing multiple characters in battle? Items will only heal one person, and my characters all suck with magic.

My characters and techs:

Sara 744/Poet 747 - SweepDown 0TP, SplitBody 7TP, GushingWing 8TP, SatsukiRain 10TP

Sharl 782 - GreatWheel 5TP, TripleThrust 10TP

Herman 601 - BladeRoll 5TP, Megahawk 6TP, DynamicHit 8TP, SkyDrive 9TP

Leonid 699 - PowerupFist 7TP, NiagaraBuster 8TP, MeteorKick 8TP, DragonInferno 15TP

Everyone has Dodge MultiAttack, Dodge Lifesteal and Dodge Hypnotize.

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From: Fleck | Posted: 1/7/2004 8:18:40 AM | Message Detail

I have been completely out of pocket the last day or two and have not been able to play at all. Hopefully I can get caught up a bit tonight. I'm worried that I am doing something wrong, though. My characters are nowhere near as strong as most of you guys. Maybe I'll be the guy that sees how LOW your level can be to beat the game. Oh, well. I have to take my work laptop home tonight to play. I'll post my stats/progress tomorrow morning.

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From: Mr Crispy | Posted: 1/7/2004 9:51:15 AM | Message Detail

I'm way behind... I haven't played RS3 since Friday. After I started feeling better, I got wrapped up in trying to beat Ratchet & Clank 2 (which I did. Got 21 Skill Points and 14 Platinum Bolts. Though "Skill Point" is a misnomer in that game if you ask me...). Which is strange, because I didn't like the first one very much.

I'll try to catch up tonight.

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/7/2004 11:30:31 AM | Message Detail

I guess I like the game a lot more than I thought I would, because I just hit the final area...

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 1/7/2004 6:07:31 PM | Message Detail

where is everyone at now?

i'm kinda not liking this as much as i thought i would... the fun kinda hits a plateau after the opening few quests... but it's still fun.

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From: Delin | Posted: 1/7/2004 6:09:39 PM | Message Detail

Well, with my time now divided between school, this game, homework, and a few other games I'm playing my time is limited. I haven't been able to give every game enough focus.

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/7/2004 6:23:57 PM | Message Detail

where is everyone at now?

I'm being consistently qwned by the final boss...

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From: jimjim142 | Posted: 1/7/2004 6:56:14 PM | Message Detail

I just beat it WHAT A GREAT GREAT GREAT game I might have to get the one for ps1.

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 1/7/2004 7:46:32 PM | Message Detail

well hello, jim. nice to see you're back. :P

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ead of one of the battle slots. This puts you in commander mode.

Instead of choosing your attacks, you choose commands that are vague, and your characters choose skills they have at random to use. So far it sucks.

Multitechs. In Commander mode, your characters can combine techs into multitechs, which deal damage greater than the single techs on their own, and hardly ever miss. Also, certain magic spells that are extremely good can only be cast in Commander mode, and use up three characters.

You also regain a little HP and correct status every turn in commander mode. Load up a save and dump your main character in the back. Try it out. Some of the harder fights are easier with multitechs.

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/8/2004 11:41:10 PM | Message Detail

*finishes game

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From: math deity | Posted: 1/9/2004 3:52:05 AM | Message Detail

One of my friends is very good with tech stuff. He has his xbox networked with his pc in such a way that he can download a rom and put it on his xbox without any hassle. As soon as I can afford a bigger HD for my xbox he'll set me up in the same way :) If I get this done soon I'll rejoin everyone for Star Ocean 1. *I'll probably play anyway since SO2 is one of my favorite games.

(Note to anti-rom extremists: I OWN more games than you have ever played.)

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From: math deity | Posted: 1/9/2004 3:55:17 AM | Message Detail

On a side note, does anyone know if Star Ocean 3's release has really been pushed back until August...? It came out about a year ago in Japan. It was supposed to arrive here in fall '03 then got pushed back until feb 'o4. Now I'm hearing aug '04...

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From: Mr Crispy | Posted: 1/9/2004 7:53:24 AM | Message Detail

I actually played the game yesterday.

Hooray!

So far, I've returned the Professor's pets, and killed the rats. Now I'm out on the Ice Lake with Wood (or whatever his name is).

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From: Delin | Posted: 1/9/2004 1:34:53 PM | Message Detail

(Note to anti-rom extremists: I OWN more games than you have ever played.)

I don't doubt it.

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/9/2004 2:32:52 PM | Message Detail

Math: Star Ocean 3 has caught the "Everyone thinks that Gamefaqs and Gamestops and EBs release dates are set in stone" syndrome.

This is where Gamefaqs will put up a release date, so everyone believes it's the real release date, or when Gamestop and EB employees come on and say that the system says a certain date, so that's what it is.

As far as I know, Sqeenix has never set an american release date. All they've done is put an ad in the Final Fantasy 10-2 booklet.

So unless you see an update on Sqeenix's page, don't listen to anyone.

Approximated release dates I've heard: March2002, April2002 September2002 December2002 March2003 June2003 July2003 August2003 December2003 March2004 May2004 August2004

As you can see, most of those are behind schedule.

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 1/9/2004 4:27:05 PM | Message Detail

man i'm sorry guys... i just started classes again and i didn't expect it to be so hectic. umm... so jim and Camden have beaten the game, where's everyone else at?

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From: TechMaster | Posted: 1/9/2004 5:11:25 PM | Message Detail

Okay, I've played more than I've said. Just to say that now I'm crossing the **** desert that is taking me forever to get across...

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/9/2004 6:06:41 PM | Message Detail

The desert? That's only three screens to the tower or the river, it can't take that long.

The longest, most annoying part of the game was finding the damn Fire Palace. The next time I see a butterfly, I'm going to put it through a lot of pain.

Oh, and since I'm farther than a lot of people, I'm playing through a second time, to do some of the other quests I missed out on.

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From: Mr Crispy | Posted: 1/9/2004 7:27:57 PM | Message Detail

I'm actually starting to get somewhere in RS3. Here's a bit of a checklist of what I've done in the order I've done it:

*Returned the Professor's pets

*Beat the rats

*Killed the Ice Lake monster with Wood

*Escorted goods to Yamas

*Tracked the bandits to their hideout, talked to Paul, and beat their leader

*Beat some demons with Robin and fake Robin

*Saved the kid in the Devil Palace (made it as far as the door sealed with the Holy King's ring, too)

Currently I'm trapesing around in Muse's dream with Sharl.

At this rate, I may have an Abyss gate or two down over the weekend.

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/9/2004 7:41:23 PM | Message Detail

Crispy: Was I the only person who laughed when Robin broke the barrel and got stuck?

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From: TechMaster | Posted: 1/10/2004 5:19:06 AM | Message Detail

You weren't the only one. I was laughing too.

Btw, I think I'm backtracking on the desert. I've been going like fifty screens and can't reach its end... (makes me remember secret of evermore...) Maybe something was messed up with the rom or something...

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From: Mr Crispy | Posted: 1/10/2004 11:28:12 AM | Message Detail

I thought I heard you had to talk to someone before you can make it through the desert...?

I can't figure out how to get through Muse's dream... I talk to the disappearing girl, leave, talk to her again, end up in a U shaped room, go through the door in the middle, talk to the disappearing girl again, leave, talk to her again, end up back in the same U shaped room. Then I talk to the disappearing girl again, end up in the same room, etc. The whole thing is an infinite loop.

Right now, my party is Julian, Sara, Nora, Wood, and Sharl. Julian and Nora have close to 400 HP, Wood and Sharl have almost 500. Sara is really lagging behind. She is only now approaching 300 HP. And while she learned some fairly good bow and sword techniques, she doesn't seem to be doing very much damage. So I'm thinking of dumping her and picking up Herman instead. He may be weak, but I can just stick him in the back till I power him up. And I want to get Boston too. I may keep Nora a little while longer even though it means she can't blacksmith, at least until I avenge her father's death by beating Jackal (for which I need Herman).

If I ever get out of this dream, I think next I'll try to go through the Aurora Path and Ice Galaxy, then beat the car battle, and then start doing the Vanguard quest. Once I get Herman, I'll start closing gates. If I can't close the Water gate first to powerup Herman, then I'll do Earth, then Water as soon as possible. Then I'll give Jackal the beat down and then work on the other gates and sidequests.

Though my plans may change, depending on whether or not I can do certain things at certain times.

And yeah, the Robin thing was sort of funny. Though I still like "Why does he always go out through the window?" from SaGa 2 the best.

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/10/2004 1:23:25 PM | Message Detail

I thought I heard you had to talk to someone before you can make it through the desert...?

To get to the Dry River, you have to talk to a woman outside the Divine Tower. The Divine Tower is three screens west from the start of the desert.

To get through Muse' dream, there is a room with three nuns and a treasure chest. Get the chest three times. You should get a Dream Jewel, a Silver Hand that you should immediately put on Sharl and never take off again, and some other item.

After you get those, you can randomly get to the right room by picking up the nun, then going down to the hall, then down again. It will sometimes put you in the right room. If not, try again.

Has anyone been to the Jungle yet? If not, tell me how you feel about butterflies when you do...

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From: Mr Crispy | Posted: 1/10/2004 6:42:04 PM | Message Detail

Never mind. I got out of Muse's dream. I also went to Ice Galaxy and got the Eternal Ice, but the Dragon Ruler was too much for me.

I made it to the control room in Vanguard, and right now I'm tricking the two mages In Moses.

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/10/2004 11:26:01 PM | Message Detail

Cripsy: I wasn't reading any faqs that much, so the Moses mission was easy for me. I just played it wrong and killed them both. Oh well...

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From: TechMaster | Posted: 1/11/2004 6:32:39 AM | Message Detail

Hey guys, due to school and family reasons, I no longer have time to participate in all this. I hope you guys will enjoy the game and the upcoming games. Of course, if you want me to input a game (when it gets to my turn despite I'm no longer participating), I can still think up a title for you to play (no, it's not Solid Runner, but it's gonna be a SFC game but yes, it has a walkthrough).

Have fun guys.

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From: Delin | Posted: 1/11/2004 9:57:40 AM | Message Detail

I'm going to also drop out of this one. School, life, other games, and the fact that I can't get into it are all reasons.

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/11/2004 5:33:38 PM | Message Detail

School, life, other games, and the fact that I can't get into it are all reasons.

Things like this usually make me sad, but I don't go to school, have finished most of my other games, and my friends are almost all a grade lower than me, and still have to go to school. So all in all, I don't have a life.

*needs money to go to college, and a job

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From: Mr Crispy | Posted: 1/11/2004 7:38:03 PM | Message Detail

I have to go back to classes tommorrow. Had to go out and get my books today... Gah! 400 dollars...

So I wasn't quite able to get as far as I wanted.

But I did get the Devil King Shield and beat Undine and Volcano, the Dolphin Statue (snatching up Herman in the process), defeated the dragon car machine (I found the battle funny for some reason...), and I went back to the Devil King Palace to close the Earth gate.

Except that Arakes kicked my ass.

So I'm going to find the special technique in the gate, then seal it up.

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From: Teath | Posted: 1/11/2004 8:18:08 PM | Message Detail

So I'm going to find the special technique in the gate, then seal it up.

Was I not paying attention enough? I can't remember anything about a special technique. The only thing that triggers with me are the skills you can only learn by using a certain skill a lot.

I've found that the Tiger Cave formation is needed for most of the tough battles. It pretty much lets the enemies go first every round, but it cuts damage by 40% or so. Using that formation with Satsuki Rain will let your sword wielders go first, and get a nice defense boost. If you don't have that, work with Gushing Wind or something else strong.

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 1/11/2004 8:58:01 PM | Message Detail

i'm going to have to drop out too. i underestimated my schedule. :( i think i picked a major that's too much for me. anyone else ever felt like that before, or is it just me? anyways... yeah, i'm going to have to study like 25 hours a day, so... no games for me. which makes me sad. i wanted to play Star Ocean like there's no tomorrow. i also have FFX2, Xenosaga, and Kingdom Hearts to finish. all those will have to go on hold. i should drop out of college for a couple semesters so i can get caught up on my gaming. :P ha! i would SO do that.

anyways, enough of my rambling. yeah, sorry about quitting during my own damn game, but i really did underestimate my schedule. maybe things will slow down midway through the semester... probably not. oh well, i'll keep posting around here, but i just won't have time to play. i hope you guys will be able to keep playing. peace.

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From: cloudsss | Posted: 1/11/2004 11:15:35 PM | Message Detail

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From: TechMaster | Posted: 1/12/2004 5:11:49 AM | Message Detail

Since you're new, I won't be reporting you. You can't beg for roms. Delete your post.

Current Game: Romancing Saga 3

Next Game: Star Ocean

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From: Fleck | Posted: 1/12/2004 7:25:23 AM | Message Detail

Welcome, Cloud. Yeah, the next game is Star Ocean. I am getting my computer ready to hook up to my TV with a SNES controller connected to it so it will at least FEEL real. A lot of us also chat in the SNES RPG topic (which is where this all started). Tech is right, you can't ask where to get ROMs, but if you do a search, you are bound to come across a good sight eventually.

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/12/2004 11:11:57 AM | Message Detail

Yes, if you want to join, that would be great. At the moment our sperm count, if you will, is low. The game were playing right now, and the next one, are both non-english games, so if you're not familiar with patching a rom with a translation, I can help you through it.

I can't give you a site for roms, the ToS doesn't allow it. Unfortunately, this is pretty much the only rule that's diligently enforced.

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From: cloudsss | Posted: 1/12/2004 1:21:44 PM | Message Detail

Sorry about that. Im not sure if you can even delete posts at level 11. If you can tell me how Id apreciate it.

By the way Camden. If your going to help me with that patching thing would it be ok for me to ask for your Im adress.

From: Delin | Posted: 1/12/2004 1:35:35 PM | Message Detail

Usually to delete your message you need to click on "message detail" where the message is and then click on the "delete you post".

Camden doesn't have IM, but he does have a public e-mail address, unlike me (I don't have another one to use), just click on Camden's name and it tells you his e-mail address.

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From: math deity | Posted: 1/12/2004 1:37:45 PM | Message Detail

I don't think you can delete your messages when you have a new acct :(

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/12/2004 2:03:47 PM | Message Detail

I believe you have to get 30 karma before you can delete your own messages. It shouldn't matter though, most people won't mark it unless they're a complete ass.

I tried AIM, but it always crashed my computer. I recently got mIRC, but my internet disconnects like crazy when I use it, more so than usual.

I'll just give you a run down for patching a game. There are two ways to do this.

Process 1:

If you use Zsnes to play your roms, then this will be a lot easier. We'll use Live a Live for a guide. Say you have a rom for Live a Live, and it's name LaL.smc. Just rename the translation to LaL.ips, and Zsnes will patch it on it's own when you load the emulator.

Process 2:

This one requires more work, but is still quite easy. First, you need to download a program that can patch roms, which is here: http://zerosoft.zophar.net/files/IPSWin20.zip

That's the first thing you need. Second, you need a rom. You'll have to find that on your own. So you should have IPSWin.exe and whatever you named the rom, such as LaL.smc.

Now, to get the translation, go to donut.parodius.com and click on the system you want. For Live A Live, select snes, scroll down to Live A Live, and click it. This will bring up the Live A Live page. There will be a section titles "Translations available" that has complete, incomplete and dead projects. You want the complete one.

Under complete translations, you'll see a translation done by Aeon Genesis. There will be a box that says patch version. Download that patch.

Now to actually patch the game. Start IPSWin. In the first box, click the folder and locate your rom. In the second box, click the folder and locate your patch. Then hit patch. If it worked, a message will pop up telling you it was a success in just a few sec'-_'-_

From: Camden | Posted: 1/12/2004 3:17:21 PM | Message Detail

You can post anything you want about translations and emulators. The only thing you can't really do is post a url for a rom site, or directly to roms. You also can't ask for them, or tell someone to send them to you in an email.

So if you have a problem with an emulator, you can post it. Emulators are completely legal to have and use.

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From: Mr Crispy | Posted: 1/12/2004 4:38:35 PM | Message Detail

Was I not paying attention enough? I can't remember anything about a special technique. The only thing that triggers with me are the skills you can only learn by using a certain skill a lot.

I was referring to the special multitechs like Galaxy (which is in the opening). I believe you need to find some sort of scroll or something in the Abyss Gates before you can use them in certain formations.

It sad to see so many people dropping out. :(

But I guess there's more important things.

I hope you find the rom and enjoy the game, cloudsss.

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/12/2004 6:29:15 PM | Message Detail

Crispy: Oh, I forgot about those. I rarely use commander mode, so I've never actually used them. I just went into Tiger Cave formation, held down the OK button, and eventually won. I was overleveled through the whole game though.

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From: Drake | Posted: 1/12/2004 7:22:52 PM | Message Detail

This is a fantastic idea! Is it too late to sign up? How far is everyone through the game roughly? If you guys are near then end i might as well wait for the next one

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From: Teath | Posted: 1/12/2004 7:46:34 PM | Message Detail

^Out of the people who are left, they are about halfway to two thirds of the way through. I'm on my second playthrough, but I played a lot and I'm basically waiting for everyone else. I'm already close to halfway on the second playthrough.

If you want to play, just start now. If we finish before you, we can either wait for you, or you can just play the game whenever you want. We started with the idea that we would set a place, and all work towards it, but it's pretty much devolved into someone chooses a game, and everyone plays it.

Where did Z3RO SoE go? I don't think he's posted in a real long time.

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From: cloudsss | Posted: 1/13/2004 12:51:39 PM | Message Detail

Im asuming all of you guys have played chrono trigger and chrono chross. I dont know if its true but Someone told me that there is a game that comes in between the two that only came out in japan called radical dreamers. if its true that would be a great idea for a game to play.

by the way, have you guys played earthbound on here yet.

From: Camden | Posted: 1/13/2004 1:44:19 PM | Message Detail

Radical Dreamers was released on Satellaview, and though it's not a true sequel to Chrono Trigger, it's known by most people to be the game that inspired the creation of Chrono Cross. It has pretty much a complete english translation, but it's not a game very many people will like.

The whole game is completely text only, with still pictures to go along with it. It's pretty much a book put into rom format. At points, the text will ask you what you want to do, you choose an option, and on with the story. Battles are carried out in this way, and so is everything else.

If you enjoyed the visuals of Chrono Trigger, you may want to check out Dynami Tracer, another Satellaview game that uses the sprites and backgrounds of Chrono Trigger.

I've played through Earthbound, and found it to be quite fun.

Fleck: I believe you were the one just getting Earthbound. What do you think of it so far, if you've played it?

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From: Drake | Posted: 1/13/2004 2:29:01 PM | Message Detail

Sounds good, I might as well start playing...I got my copy of the DeJap Star Ocean translation so if we're doing that next I'm ready :)

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From: Fleck | Posted: 1/13/2004 2:40:59 PM | Message Detail

Yeah, I am in the desert getting my ass kicked by those stupid things that cast fire and blow up when they die. I haven't played it much since we started Romancing SaGa 3, but I have liked what I have played. Very unique game. I know everyone that plays it says the same thing, but now I understand. There just isn't another game like it. I really like the fact that if you are much stronger than the enemies on the screen, they run away from you. That should be a part of every RPG. I always hated wasting precious minutes killing stupid 1 exp slimes just to get to a town to rest.

Anyway, I am ready to play Star Ocean by the end of this week. Let's take a roll call before then so we know how many people we are dealing with. I know a lot of people have dropped out and I don't even know if I am going to totally finish SaGa 3 before the next game, but I will eventually. Looks like we picked up a couple of new people with Cloudsss and Drake, so maybe that will make up for those who have dropped out.

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From: Delin | Posted: 1/13/2004 3:04:13 PM | Message Detail

I'm willing to give Star Ocean a shot. It's just that when school restarted I didn't have time. Now with things settling down a bit. I can go back to my old procrastination ways.

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From: Teath | Posted: 1/13/2004 3:14:12 PM | Message Detail

So you've seen the blue cow. Alas, video game perfection.

I'm up for Star Ocean once everyone is finished. I'm playing through Saga a second time, but I've finished it once so I'm not in any kind of hurry.

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From: Delin | Posted: 1/13/2004 3:19:17 PM | Message Detail

So you've seen the blue cow. Alas, video game perfection.

I wouldn't call it video gaming perfection, but it's close.

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From: Fleck | Posted: 1/13/2004 3:19:39 PM | Message Detail

The blue cow was pretty damn funny.

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From: Mr Crispy | Posted: 1/13/2004 3:23:11 PM | Message Detail

Well, I just sealed an Abyss Gate. That fight with Arakes was pretty easy this time around... didn't even lose a single LP this time. No match for Satyuki Rain, Double Dragon, and Stone Cut doing between 1000 and 1500 damage per attack, for a grand total of about 8000-9000 damage a turn. In fact, the first time I lost I think it was because I was trying to spark new attacks.

So I guess now I'm off to go get Boston the lobster, and beat the Water Gate.

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From: Teath | Posted: 1/13/2004 3:26:44 PM | Message Detail

Crispy: I forgot to do something on lobster island, and can't go back. It ruined my dreams of having a party consist of a snowman, a vampire, a lobster, an elephant, and a pirate.

Aarrrrrrr!

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From: cloudsss | Posted: 1/13/2004 6:26:11 PM | Message Detail

I got the star ocean rom and I got that patch thing from that site donut.parodius.com and I used it but only a few of the menus are translated and none of the text is. From what i could tell that was the only patch that was even suposed to be closed to done although i couldnt tell you for sure. could somone give me some advice about this.

also I tried playing star ocean on the zsnes emulator and i couldnt see anything. i messed with it a little and couldnt get it to work so im using a different emulator for that game. could some one else check and see if star ocean works on zsnes. From: TechMaster | Posted: 1/13/2004 6:36:30 PM | Message Detail www.dejap.com

That's the site you would "want" to go to if you're going to play Star Ocean. Get the "latest" patch from there as well as the graphic pack that is used to decode the SDD1 chip that Star ocean uses. Also, don't use an outdated ZSNES since it doesn't support the graphic packs.

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From: Teath | Posted: 1/13/2004 8:37:35 PM | Message Detail

^What Tech said. I explained in the email how to apply the graphics pack, if you can't figure out the graphics pack, there is a topic about it on the Star Ocean board, and if that doesn't help, you could always use Snes9x, which plays the game without the pack.

Snes9x is, however, the worse emulator by popular opinion.

I hope I didn't just start a 9x V Z string of posts.

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From: Fleck | Posted: 1/14/2004 6:43:14 AM | Message Detail

Cam, I am getting my computer ready to play SO this Saturday. I am hooking it up with S-video to my TV and just using that PC for nothing but ROM play and internet. So, when I get it all done I might need your help. I am still very new to this whole thing. I'll let you know when I am ready. It will be nice to not have to bring my work laptop home to play RS3 anymore. By the way, I am almost done with that game, I think. I have completed several sidequests and three gates. I hope the Star Ocean playing crowd doesn't fall apart like the last one.

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From: Delin | Posted: 1/14/2004 1:21:53 PM | Message Detail

I'll give thins one a fair shot. I just need to get everything together to play. I should be ready be the weekend. Also, the weekend, if we want to, would be a great time to start, most of us have Monday off, or at least I do. But I'm willing to start when everyone else does.

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From: Teath | Posted: 1/14/2004 1:42:45 PM | Message Detail

Delin: I have every day off...

I need a damn job.

Fleck: If you need help with something along the lines of a rom/translation/emulator I can help, but not if it has anything to do with manipulating a tv with a pc. I can't figure anything about that stuff out.

I'm still trying to figure out how to turn subtitles off on my DVD player.

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 1/14/2004 1:51:13 PM | Message Detail

I hope the Star Ocean playing crowd doesn't fall apart like the last one.

yeah, that was my fault... it probably doesn't help to have the person making stopping points quit mid-game. :P sorry about that.

i still can't play Star Ocean with yall, but i will be playing it at the same time. i just won't be able to keep a schedule AT ALL because of my class work and whatnot, so i'll probably fall way behind. but i 'll try to involve myself in discussion.

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From: Fleck | Posted: 1/14/2004 2:01:05 PM | Message Detail

Cam: I have my brother to hook everything up, but I might need your help with the ROM stuff.

Pat: Don't worry about it, we picked up a few new people to replace you (J/K).

So, who's in?

So far, I think the list goes something like this:

Fleck

Camden

Techmaster

Delin

Mr. Crispy

Cloudsss

Drake

I know that Math Deity doesn't like ROMs, but he might be in, and I haven't heard from Z3RO SoE since we started all this in the old RPG thread. Also jimjim might pop in with his "I'm playing... I beat it" two posts :P. Am I forgetting anyone else? Does anyone else want to sign up?

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 1/14/2004 2:07:10 PM | Message Detail

it would take more than one person to replace me, so it's all good. :P

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From: cloudsss | Posted: 1/14/2004 2:44:30 PM | Message Detail

i finally got everything working with the translations and graphics patch and all so im ready to start whenever you guys are. I bet this is going to be a lot of fun.

Thanks for all the help.

From: Fleck | Posted: 1/14/2004 2:50:33 PM | Message Detail

It really is a lot of fun when everyone is playing and talking about different strategies and storylines an such together. You might check out the old RPG topic where we all played Y's III together. The link is here:

http://www.geocities.com/dogrobot/snes_rpg.htm

I am actually looking very forward to Star Ocean. I have heard a lot about this game and have never even seen a screenshot (don't want to spoil anything).

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From: kain611 | Posted: 1/14/2004 2:55:18 PM | Message Detail

Count me in and I'm currently playing Star Ocean. I'll stop so not as to spoil it and I guess I'll play RS3....does it matter who we use?

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From: Fleck | Posted: 1/14/2004 5:49:02 PM | Message Detail

Great, Kain611! We'll add you to the list. You don't have to play RS3 if you don't want to, because we are all either almost done or, like camden, going through it a second time. We all played different characters, but it doesn't really matter after the intro who you play, as far as the story goes (I don't think). How far are you in Star Ocean?

Hey, Camden, which FAQ/Walkthrough are you going to use for reference points?

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From: kain611 | Posted: 1/14/2004 7:09:06 PM | Message Detail

I'm up to Parj Temple and I currently have Ashlay with me and not Cius. I'll keep plugging away at SO. Does this group do say an all Japanese game? Cause I would love to try Far East of Eden Zero or that Oni game. They both look great but I can't read or speak a lick of Japanese:-) Well keep me posted.

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From: Fleck | Posted: 1/14/2004 7:22:06 PM | Message Detail

Are you going to start over or just wait for us to catch up to you? We usually set a certain place in a walkthrough that we all try to get to and then go from there, that way we can all chat about the same stuff and not spoil anything. Whatever you want to do. We probably won't get into an all Japanese game because most of us, sans Camden, don't speak Japanese. I guess we could try it and just let Camden tell us what the hell is going on the whole time. The next game gets picked by Math Deity, though, and I doubt he will pick an all Japanese game.

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From: Fleck | Posted: 1/14/2004 7:22:27 PM | Message Detail

One that is not translated, I mean.

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From: kain611 | Posted: 1/14/2004 7:55:45 PM | Message Detail

Okay that sounds good. Yes I'll wait till you guys get there or near there I'm at like the 6 hour mark or so. You don't have to go to the Parj Temple thats just where I chose to go first. I'll dabble in other games looking at strategy games right now since RS3 is so boring right now. RS3 = Rainbow Six 3 not Romancing Saga.

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From: Teath | Posted: 1/14/2004 10:02:41 PM | Message Detail

Cam: I have my brother to hook everything up, but I might need your help with the ROM stuff.

I'm guessing that since you played Romancing Saga 3, you can probably patch a rom, so the only thing you should need any help with is the graphics pack. Go to www.dejap.com, and click on the projects page. Find Star Ocean. On the Star Ocean page should be a link to a graphics pack. You'll need to download this.

If you don't have your roms in the same folder as your emulator, you're going to have problems. Alright, in your emulator folder, create a new folder titled, "Socnsdd1", and put the files in the graphics pack in that folder. You're all done.

I know that Math Deity doesn't like ROMs, but he might be in,

I'm pretty sure he told me that he was going to play. It could have been Crispy. I don't know, the name started with an M, that's for sure. Well, that's not for sure, but I thought it started with an M. Meh, whatever.

It really is a lot of fun when everyone is playing and talking about different strategies and storylines an such together.

Did we actually do that much on topic discussion? I thought I pretty much ruined it, kind of like my mod *****ing I'm doing in the other one. I really need to start topically discussing actual issues, because I'm sure everyone is pretty annoyed at this point. Oh well, I signed up for LUE, I can always annoy people there if I need to. I haven't yet, but I'm sure I'll fit right in.

or, like camden, going through it a second time.

I gave up. I got to the Jungle again, and got completely flustered with the butterfly maze. I believe that area was created solely for Hitler to take over the world. I named the red butterfly Super Nazi Extremist Pig, and I named the blue butterfly James Cameron.

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Does this group do say an all Japanese game?

We could, but don't expect it. If we did, the game would need either an extensive walkthrough, or someone very familiar with the game's layout. Seeing as most games with a healthy sized walkthrough already have translations, I doubt this will come up.

We probably won't get into an all Japanese game because most of us, sans Camden, don't speak Japanese.

You and Patrick both said that. I can't understand japanese at all, not visually or orally.

Heh, I said orally...

I hope this one is short enough. I responded too much, and broke the post size limit.

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From: kain611 | Posted: 1/14/2004 10:33:04 PM | Message Detail

Hey just wanted to add that the walkthrough at rpgclassics.com is GREAT! Best I've seen for SO. Also the walkthrough for this game Bakumatsu Korinden Oni (here at Gamefaqs.) is pretty good with jap symbols that appear in game and things like that although it doesn't finish the game. So Saturday is when SO gets started? We should all be able to beat it at least once by next week. Also if you use the new version of Snes9x you don't need the graphics pack although it does speed it up. One other thing to if you use Znes (graphic pack required) I've found if you set the Old GFX mode2 instead of the new GFX you encounter fewer bugs. Peace.

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From: Teath | Posted: 1/14/2004 11:21:50 PM | Message Detail

So Saturday is when SO gets started? We should all be able to beat it at least once by next week.

I doubt that. Most of us are playing a lot of games at once, and once my second copy of Unlimited Saga arrives(grumble) I'll be playing more than one. We've been playing Romancing Saga 3 since this topic started, so you can check the date, and it will be a day or two at least for everyone to finish up.

Snes9x doesn't need the graphics pack, but it's been said that Zsnes won't for one of it's next updates either. Also, quite a few people have said that the graphics for Star Ocean encounter problems on 9x, pack or not.

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From: cloudsss | Posted: 1/15/2004 1:54:37 PM | Message Detail

I was wandering exactly how many star ocean games there are.

From: Fleck | Posted: 1/15/2004 2:02:19 PM | Message Detail

Two or three, I think, but the third one is either out or coming out soon in Japan.

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From: Delin | Posted: 1/15/2004 2:18:05 PM | Message Detail

Lies! Star Ocean does need the graphics pack for SNES9x. I just tried and all I got were pretty pictures of fuzz.

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From: Delin | Posted: 1/15/2004 2:31:11 PM | Message Detail

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From: Delin | Posted: 1/15/2004 2:31:34 PM | Message Detail

*clears throat*

HELP!!!

I've gotten the game and all the patches so...now what I've tried patching them and the language patch worked but the graphics packs says not to patch it so...What do I do now?

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/15/2004 2:34:14 PM | Message Detail

Delin: Update. The newest version is the only one that works. If it still doesn't work, well, sucks to be you.

There is four Star Ocean games.

Star Ocean for the snes.

Star Ocean 2 for the playstation.

Star Ocean Blue Sphere for the gameboy.

Star Ocean 3, which is really the fourth, for playstation 2

Star Ocean 3 has about 70 different release dates, but unless you see it on Sqeenix's actual page, don't believe them. The Gamefaqs release dates are almost always wrong, as are Gamestop and EB dates. The game is coming out in 2004, and that's all we really know.

Star Ocean Blue Sphere did not come out stateside, and probably never will. A translation is being made by AGTP, but I don't think there's been an update in a while.

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/15/2004 2:47:04 PM | Message Detail

For other people who need help, here is the best explanation I can give.

You need these things.

1 IPS patching program

1 Star Ocean rom

1 Star Ocean translation

1 Graphics pack

Use your patcher, and patch the translation to the rom like normal. Make sure that your Star Ocean rom is in the same folder as your emulator.

Alright, now in the folder where you have the emulator and Star Ocean rom, create another folder called, "Socnsdd1". In the graphics pack, there should be two files, and some type of readme. Put sdd1gfx.dat and sdd1gfx.idx INSIDE the folder you just created.

Emulator = C:/Windows/Zsnes/Zsnes.exe

Rom = C:/Windows/Zsnes/StarOcean.rom

Folder = C:/Windows/Zsnes/Socnsdd1/

Graphics pack items = C:/Windows/Zsnes/Socnsdd1/sdd1gfx.dat and C:/Windows/Zsnes/Socnsdd1/sdd1gfx.idx

Now, the location doesn't matter, as long the graphics pack is in the socnsdd1 folder, and that the socnsdd1 folder is inside your emulator folder.

That should help everyone enough.

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From: kain611 | Posted: 1/15/2004 3:35:58 PM | Message Detail

Also the graphics pack is not needed with the latest version of SNES9x(1.42 i believe) however it speeds the game up considerably so it is still recommended. Also Star ocean Blue Sphere might have found a translator:-) Ghideon is suppose to be sending the dumped script to him. There's a thread on the Gamefaqs board for the game. Wish him luck and maybe he'll be motivated to finish it quicker:-)

Anyway on with SO, and just so you know the beginning is rather long and the walkthrough on rpgclassics is the premium choice. Cya!

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From: Mr Crispy | Posted: 1/15/2004 4:18:00 PM | Message Detail

Just so you know, someone on the Genesis board saw our topic and started a similar thing there. I'd join that one too, but I am just way too busy with

I'm in on Star Ocean, just I'm still playing RS3. I don't have quite as much free time now, but I'll try to get another gate or two done over the weekend. I'll try to find the game, and my old save. I think I lost it in a hard drive crash about a year or two ago (along with DQ 5 and 6 saves about 1/3-1/2 of the way through... v_v).

I won the tournament in Zweig (which triggers the quest for the Holy Grail; insert Monty Python references here), and beat the Water Dragon on Limit Island. So now I'm at the Water Gate. After which I'll beat Jackal, get some of the Holy King's treasures from the trials in Lance, and move onto the Wind Gate.

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/15/2004 6:07:56 PM | Message Detail

I feel bad for the Genesis board... after three games, they'll run out of rpgs to play.

Alright, there's more than three. I think there's about twelve or so I can think of. Still, that won't last nearly as long as the colossal snes rpg collection.

*inflates ego

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From: Delin | Posted: 1/15/2004 7:21:59 PM | Message Detail

Camden, thanks for the info never would have been able to figure it out with out help. The readme file is very unhelpful. It works fine now.

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/15/2004 7:56:50 PM | Message Detail

It took me about an hour or so to figure it out the first time. When I downloaded the rom and graphics pack, no one at that point was used to it and I couldn't really get any help anywhere. Now, though, virtually everyone on the Star Ocean board could break it down into steps.

Sigh...

I just figured out how to make fake tags. I'd have gone crazy if I didn't post somewhere.

Yay for old things I don't already know yet everyone else does!

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From: kain611 | Posted: 1/16/2004 4:18:00 AM | Message Detail

Anyone know how to get Far East of Eden Zero working? I've read the read me but I just can't get it to work.

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From: Fleck | Posted: 1/16/2004 9:20:42 AM | Message Detail

It appears as though I have hit a snag with my computer. I need a new video card and I won't be able to play SO until Sunday or Monday. I'm just going to walk away from RS3 for awhile, because I'm a little frustrated with it and I am playing Earthbound also and don't want to follow three stories at once. ANYWAY, go ahead and start without me, but I will catch up next week as my wife will be out of town and I will have no distractions.

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From: Mr Crispy | Posted: 1/16/2004 3:03:04 PM | Message Detail

I sealed the Water Gate, and started the chase with Jackal. Gotta go through Naj Desert to the Divine Tower next.

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From: cloudsss | Posted: 1/16/2004 3:11:35 PM | Message Detail

I tried playing star ocean with the snes9x and it does work. AT least I your using a zsnes though you dont actually patch the game with the graphics patch you just put it in that folder and load the game.

From: cloudsss | Posted: 1/16/2004 4:42:45 PM | Message Detail

Hey everybody. For anybody who doesent know in the star ocean games skills are very improtant and using your skill points eficently is even more important.

First of all in the begining of the game youll only want to learn the most esential skills, like ones that give you stat bonuses. and these only at low leveles. Then after you get the effort skill you should max it out and it will seriously cut down on the amount of skill points you need for everything else. Also Most skills only need to have one charecter who knows them. some of the exceptions are battle skills. Also use the authoring skill to level up your other skills without using skill points.

good luck every body. This sure is fun.

From: Camden | Posted: 1/16/2004 5:29:06 PM | Message Detail

I haven't started yet. I can barely post messages right now because my internet won't stay connected for more than a few minutes at once.

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From: cloudsss | Posted: 1/16/2004 5:52:15 PM | Message Detail

If you havent started yet make sure you remember this stuff cause its really important. I know i started a day early but I couldnt wait and i dont think anybody minds.

From: Delin | Posted: 1/16/2004 6:45:06 PM | Message Detail

I think that I'll start up tomorrow and start playing.

Camden you need to pick our first checkpoint.

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From: Drake | Posted: 1/16/2004 7:08:18 PM | Message Detail

Can anyone explain the battle system to me a little? It seems a bit...odd. *shrug* Mebbe I'm just tired?

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From: cloudsss | Posted: 1/16/2004 7:25:04 PM | Message Detail

The battle system is unique but also really cool. However there are some anoying things about it that get fixed in second story.

Now then, to attack first you press the attack button once and a little targeting reticule will pop up on one of the enimes. You select the target you want to atack with the directional pad (arrow keys) then you hit the atack button again.

For special attacks which you get as you level up you have to go into the menu and select special. then you select either the r1 or l1 buttons to place the attack on and select which range to put on. until later in the game each attack has a short or long range designation, and you can only place it on its type of attack range. when your in battle you press the atack button once select your target and then press either the l1 or r1 buttons depending on where you placed the special move in the menu. If your not at the apropriate distance of long or short range then the attack wont work. what range your at is displayed on the screen.

Im pretty familar with this system so if anybody has any other questions about the battle system the skill system or anything else just ask and ill probably know. good luck. From: Camden | Posted: 1/16/2004 8:38:28 PM | Message Detail I'm getting familiar with the walkthrough layout, and will post a first stop a little later tonight.

Question: I heard that, unlike Star Ocean 2, you can't freely move, but have to hit a button. Explain it if you could for me.

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From: cloudsss | Posted: 1/16/2004 8:54:30 PM | Message Detail

When you press the y button a small target will apear on the field. you can move the target with the arow keys and press a to run to wherever the target is. if its over an enemy you will atack them and if its over an ally youll step right in front of them and protect them. I havent ever used the protect charecter comand in this game and it is somewhat unique so I dont know how well that works.

Problem is time doesent stop when you do this so it will not be something you should be doing often. only in boss fights and when your cornered im guessing.

Also you can set a charecter to protect other charecters in the menu.

One other thing is that Ratix doesent have an AI so you can switch from him but i wouldnt do it for long cause he will get bashed pretty bad.

From: Camden | Posted: 1/16/2004 8:56:11 PM | Message Detail

Meh, screw planning it out, it's not like the other two stayed on schedule. This one probably won't either.

Seeing as my experience with the game is little, I don't have any clue how long we'll have to play to get to certain points. I guess I'll stick the first stop at Velcant Lair, which is in big white letters.

We'll see how long people take to get there. Be it in one day or a week, I'm not sure.

I'm going to go watch SWAT now, because it's due back in the morning, so I probably won't start until tomorrow morning.

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 1/16/2004 11:59:56 PM | Message Detail

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/17/2004 12:32:55 AM | Message Detail

Well, I officially started. I beat down some thieves at the start, and that's all I've done so far. Conan starts in a few minutes, so I had to stop.

I was going in thinking I'd have to hit a few different buttons, but once I seen that I had no battle skills to start with, I just mashed my End key all to hell. Poor end key...

Do the L and R buttons have any function inside battle? I tested them out, but didn't see any visible results.

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From: cloudsss | Posted: 1/17/2004 1:01:57 AM | Message Detail

I put like a half page post on the function of the l and r keys in battle on page 23. you should read that.

From: kain611 | Posted: 1/17/2004 5:16:09 AM | Message Detail

It should only take about 2 hours game time or so to get to this point. I'm sitting idle at Parj Temple(been there when we started) and I'm currently at 6hrs. 31 minutes. On the walkthrough this is the end of part 1. Well I'm off to play Shih Tzu's translation of Just Breed. Top Notch job. By the way does anyone here know how to patch either Langrisser 2 for the Genesis or Der Langrisser for the SNES? I can't figure it out.

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 1/17/2004 7:42:55 AM | Message Detail

oops... sorry about that last post. :/

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From: Delin | Posted: 1/17/2004 11:06:08 AM | Message Detail

I've gotten though the begining of the intro. I'm now on my way up the mountain.

I understand that this is the first time that it's been completly translated, but some of the dialog comes off as just silly.

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From: Mr Crispy | Posted: 1/17/2004 7:45:13 PM | Message Detail

I'm still plugging away at RS3... I beat Jackal and got all his Holy King relics, thawed the Dragon Ruler guarding the Ice Sword, then sealed the Wind and Fire gates. So it seems that I'm almost ready for the endgame. But I want to finish some more things and level up a bit before heading to the eastern lands.

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From: TechMaster | Posted: 1/18/2004 5:45:46 AM | Message Detail

Yes, I am. However, HA progress has been stalled due to another project I'm working on as well. HA will continue being translated once this project is completed either at the end of January or February.

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From: cloudsss | Posted: 1/18/2004 7:03:13 AM | Message Detail

I meant page 23 of this board topic

Judging by the number of posts id say there were a lot of other people busy on saturday to.

From: TechMaster | Posted: 1/18/2004 11:47:51 AM | Message Detail

Maximize your post per page to 50 Cloudsss. It's way more efficient (don't have to go through that many pages to get to something you want) that way.

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From: cloudsss | Posted: 1/18/2004 11:55:09 AM | Message Detail

you mean 50 words

From: TechMaster | Posted: 1/18/2004 12:00:38 PM | Message Detail

Go to "Change My Message Display Settings"

Find "Messages per page" - Set it to 50.

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From: Delin | Posted: 1/18/2004 12:20:27 PM | Message Detail

Alright, I finally got thought the intro. Now I'm on a beach in the past. I'm going to play though the next section tomorrow and then I'll be at the checkpoint.

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From: cloudsss | Posted: 1/18/2004 1:50:59 PM | Message Detail

Hey im in astral, and im almost to parji temple. Everybody post about where you are From: TechMaster | Posted: 1/18/2004 2:47:10 PM | Message Detail Beaten it

about a year ago.

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From: Fleck | Posted: 1/18/2004 4:01:52 PM | Message Detail

Alright, my computer officially sucks @$$!! It must have some sort of a virus on it because now it won't even boot up. I can't use this computer to download anything (wife's company computer) so I am going to be lagging further behind than I thought. I'll take it in tomorrow to let the tech guys drool over an actual problem and maybe have it back by Tue. or Wed. Until then, I'll just have to read how you guys are doing.

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/18/2004 4:23:16 PM | Message Detail

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From: Delin | Posted: 1/18/2004 6:17:31 PM | Message Detail

That's why I don't like NFL football. After my high school is done losing and my future college is done doing the same (UCF Golden Knights, if you haven't heard of them I'm not surprised) I start watching real college teams. After the end of College Football season, I go to my true love. NHL!

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/18/2004 6:39:11 PM | Message Detail

It's not that my team lost, because they got knocked off in week one of the playoffs by Carolina. I just have this irrational hate for the New England Patriots. The superbowl right now is this:

Team I hate for no reason vs. Team I hate because they knocked off my team.

I'm hoping for a meteor or something to crash in Houston on February 1st. No winners make Ryan a happy boy!

I didn't find it in a quick search and find, but does ebay keep track of your map? I'm on my sixth account or so now, and I don't really want all my negative feedback from the others to surface.

Actual on topic things: I just met Ronixis and Iria. I know, I'm not that far, but I'll catch up. I was the last to finish in the first game, I can't be last again yet.

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From: kain611 | Posted: 1/18/2004 8:29:10 PM | Message Detail

I've completed Parj Temple and I'm trying to find a *cough* good rom for Der Langrisser so i can play it but no luck. Apply translation patch and let attract mode roll through and everything is fine, push start and it goes black. Ugh. I hate this stuff. Anyway good luck all and when you guys get to Parj I'll start up again.

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From: Drake | Posted: 1/19/2004 2:01:55 AM | Message Detail

I'm having an irritating time getting on the computer to play Star Ocean but I'll keep working at it. Thanks for the battle system explanation - that helped a lot :)

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From: Mr Crispy | Posted: 1/19/2004 7:27:01 PM | Message Detail

Well, I got started on Star Ocean. I found out I lost my save, though, so I had to start from scratch. :(

Got through the bandit cave.

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/19/2004 7:54:25 PM | Message Detail

I can give you a link to a clean rom, just not on Gamefaqs. I suppose I could make a scavenger hunt, and give you clues that direct you from one site to another, eventually leading to you the site you want, but that's too much trouble for me.

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From: Mr Crispy | Posted: 1/20/2004 2:34:54 PM | Message Detail

That probably wouldn't be necessary... I found it (and Star Ocean: Blue Sphere) within like 10 minutes of searching. Not all that hard to find if you look on Google or some other search engine.

It's not like it's some obscure game or anything... There are tons of SO series fansites out there, and some link or host the rom.

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/20/2004 2:47:27 PM | Message Detail

Crispy: If that was in reference to me, I was talking to kain. The Der Langrisser version 1.0 rom is the commonly found one, and the patches only work on version 1.1.

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From: Fleck | Posted: 1/21/2004 3:19:10 PM | Message Detail

How far is everyone? I still haven't gotten my computer back, so I am limited to only being able to post from work and my wife's work computer. I hope I am not going to be too far behind. I am so excited to play this game. Very frustrating.

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/21/2004 3:51:27 PM | Message Detail

I'm not that far at all. I like the game, but Unlimited Saga just arrived yesterday, and I'm trying to get a little further in that as well.

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From: Delin | Posted: 1/21/2004 6:34:21 PM | Message Detail

I haven't been able to play much since the weekend. I get easily side-tracked. I'll put some playtime in tomorrow.

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From: kain611 | Posted: 1/21/2004 9:11:02 PM | Message Detail

Done through Parj Temple and hanging out chilling messing around with Der Langrisser. Now we need to get SO:Blue Sphere translated. By the way when is it too early to pick my choice for game? You know so its called and can't be forgotten?

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From: Fleck | Posted: 1/22/2004 7:17:16 AM | Message Detail

If you look at the first post, there is a list of everyone that has signed up. You get to pick your game in order of you singing up. I forgot to add you and Drake, so I will repost the list right now...

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From: Fleck | Posted: 1/22/2004 7:23:53 AM | Message Detail

Here it is:

Fleck (Ys III: Wanderers from Ys)

PatrickPS2 (Romancing SaGa 3)

Teath/Camden (Star Ocean) (Current Game)

Math Deity

TechMaster

Delin

Mr. Crispy

Z3RO SoE

jimjim142

Cloudsss

Drake

Kain611

Again, this list goes in order of people signing up. That was the most fair way of doing it that we could think of when we started this whole thing.

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From: Z3RO SoE | Posted: 1/22/2004 10:38:43 AM | Message Detail

CRAP!!!! Wizardry V was sold out...

I guess I'll have to buy it via eBay anyway :S

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From: TechMaster | Posted: 1/23/2004 6:09:30 AM | Message Detail

Hmm...so where's anyone now? (erm..bump)

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From: cloudsss | Posted: 1/23/2004 10:02:58 AM | Message Detail

I messed up and didnt get fear so i got set back about an hour and i cant play much on weekdays. im guessing the whole game is about 12-14 hours so it would probably be bad to start really late. From: kain611 | Posted: 1/23/2004 12:31:33 PM | Message Detail How'd you miss Fear? You have like 3 chances to get her. Or did she leave and follow the guy with wings.?

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From: Mr Crispy | Posted: 1/23/2004 3:02:39 PM | Message Detail

I did the bit about beating the fake Fear, and am now in Parj Temple with Joshua.

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From: Mr Crispy | Posted: 1/23/2004 7:04:26 PM | Message Detail

And now I am where I was 2 years ago (when I gave up because it kept freezing or graphics glitched), then my hard drive crashed): In the Van Trial Cave with Ratix, Iria, Cius, Milly, Joshua, Marvel, and Ronixis.

Say, Camden, how hard was the final boss in RS3? Did you have to level up a lot (have 999 HP, etc.)? It sounds like Egg how you can weaken it by destroying the other bosses, though is there any way to restore LP/WP/JP in the last dungeon (I think Barrier Stones do this...?)? I might try to get the rest of the relics and then head to the east this weekend or next week...

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/23/2004 8:06:25 PM | Message Detail

Delin: If you kill the four forms before you fight him, he's a lot easier. I used Tiger Cave formation, and had about 900HP for each character. I had no reliable source of healing beyond items I had equipped, which didn't do much. I just put out as much damage as I could, and pretty much ignored healing. Because I used Sara, I got to fight in the commander mix mode, where I could use Multi and Single techs. He had about 80,000HP or so. I didn't count, but that seems about right.

As long as you have a lot of strong techs, he shouldn't trouble you that much. By the way, have you went to the fire palace yet? I just wanted to know if anyone hated the butterflies as much as I do.

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From: Fleck | Posted: 1/23/2004 8:59:48 PM | Message Detail

It's official. My computer's processor won't support a network card (I've never heard of this, but that's what my guy is telling me). So, I have to buy a new computer and that is going to be a while. I guess I have to sit this one out, too. DAMMIT!!!! Math Deity, with the next pick, will probably not pick a game that will have to be played from a ROM, so I will be back in after that. If I luck out and find someone that knows how to fix my stupid computer or somehow come across enough money to buy one, then I will play this game, but I can't play it on mine or my wife's work computers and don't have six hours (yes, that's how long it estimated to take) to download a ROM and translation with my crappy 33K modem. Anyone have any ideas?

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/23/2004 9:30:14 PM | Message Detail

HOLY <caps>****</caps>! Six hours!

I have no help, because I know absolutely nothing about computers. I don't even know what the hell a network card is. Something to do with the internet, I'd assume.

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From: kain611 | Posted: 1/24/2004 12:10:11 AM | Message Detail

6 hours to download SO? On my 28.8 modem it only took like an hour. Just use the new SNes 9x(1.42) and then you don't need the graphics pack. That will take 2+ hours on dial up. By the way hope you get a solution quick Fleck or we chose stuff you don't need a rom for:-)

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From: Mr Crispy | Posted: 1/24/2004 1:48:21 PM | Message Detail

Getting to the Fire Palace wasn't that hard for me. I got there before even reaching the fairy who tells you to follow the butterflies. Even if it took longer, I probably wouldn't find it as annoying as the Celestial World dungeon in SaGa2, the Battle of South Moundtop in SaGa Frontier 2, or Chaos in Unlimited SaGa.

I should almost be set tech wise. Julian has Satyuki Rain, Dragon Tail, and Split Body with the Seven Star Sword and Ice Sword (for the apparant counter attack effect); Nora and Sharl have Triple Thrust, Spiral Charge, Double Dragon, and Wheel Slash; Boston has Powerup Fist and S Dimension; Black doens't have anything spectacular, but has the Devil King Axe and Shield (thought I'd put them all on one person so I only have one character that burns double WP). Might need some better moves for Boston (who I'm thinking about stacking with Life Canes for their shattering move for an emergency heal all and as a healer in general) and Black, and a better spear for Nora (Sharl has the Holy King Spear).

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From: kain611 | Posted: 1/24/2004 4:18:18 PM | Message Detail

So whats the next game? Has Math already decided? Just wondering, think I'm going to go mess around with RS3 seeing as how I missed that one:-)

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/24/2004 5:43:53 PM | Message Detail

I don't have my original file any longer, but I have the file from the second playthrough I started, which is stuck at the damn jungle. After I finish the jungle, I can pretty much tackle the boss again.

Sara 929HP/134TP SwordLv38 - Split Body, Golden Dragon

Poet 964HP/130TP SwordLv39 - Split Body, Golden Dragon

Black 986HP/128TP AxeLv37 - Megahawk, Sky Drive

Elephant 969HP/131TP BigSwordLv33 - Stealing Hands, Earth Crescent

Leonid 929HP/171TP PunchLv38 - Powerup Fist, Dragon Inferno

Sharl(Extra)984HP/115TP SpearLv34 - Great Wheel, Triple Thrust

Everyone also has: Dodge MultiAttack, Dodge Hypnotize, Dodge Lifesteal, Dodge Stare, Dodge Feint

Weapons and Defense

Sara 62/51 - Dragon Scale, Knight, Life Cane, Salve 3

Poet 58/42 - Dragon Scale, Knight, Salve 3, Poet Fiddle

Black 60/33 - Brover, Buster, Knight, Salve 3

Elephant 54/41 - Ice Sword, Knight, Life Cane, Salve 3

Leonid 69/69 - Flame Beast, Holy Grail, Life Cane, Salve 3

Sharl(Extra) 50/40 - Holy King, B.Lancer, Knight, Salve 3

That's what my party looks like before the jungle this time, so they'll probably have max HP before the final boss. Still trying to learn that one tech from sweepdown, which I haven't done yet.

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From: kain611 | Posted: 1/25/2004 9:49:14 PM | Message Detail

Just entering Van I II now, have gotten sidetracked playing RS3:-) Bi...in' game! Oops I'll probably get modded for that! There thats better. Anyway I hope the RS1 translation is done when its my turn to pick:-) that would be sweet. Also thinking maybe of Shin Megami Tensei 1 or 2. Hopefully Ghid will find his notes and get SMT2 done soon. Well catch you all around.

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From: math deity | Posted: 1/25/2004 11:06:40 PM | Message Detail

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From: math deity | Posted: 1/25/2004 11:08:25 PM | Message Detail

So am I up next for picking the game to play? I dunno if Star Ocean is done yet...

I'd like to play through either:

1. Lord of the Rings - Be the first kid on your block to beat it!

2. Super Ninja Boy - I don't know much about it except that I believe it's fairly obscure and has very long passwords. I played a few hours of it last spring and haven't gotten back to it yet.

3. Math sucks at picking games, skip him! >_< (don't pick 3)

So vote away. Whichever game receives more votes will be the next game on the docket. BTW, both are US releases. Sometime in the next few months I'll hopefully get my xbox set up to emulate; until then I'm sticking to carts.

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/25/2004 11:48:18 PM | Message Detail

I have no idea who is actually playing Star Ocean. I'm about half done, an

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Cheers guys,

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From: Fleck | Posted: 1/26/2004 8:48:19 AM | Message Detail

Honestly it doesn't matter to me what we play next. I'm still a little miffed that I don't have a computer. With my wife out of town until Friday, I have no internet at home now, and it is driving me crazy. I can only post in here in the morning and afternoon when most of the posting happens in the evening. Anyway, back on topic, Lord of the Rings sounds fine to me. I don't have Super Ninja Boy, but I am sure I could find it. I think we still have a ways to go, though before Star Ocean is over. Mr. Crispy, Camden, Kain, Drake, Cloudsss, Tech(?), and Delin(?) are still playing Star Ocean, so we can't start a new game until they all beat it.

Math Deity, have you beaten 7th Saga?

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From: Mr Crispy | Posted: 1/26/2004 9:59:54 AM | Message Detail

Yeah, I'm still playing SO. I got the Van, Moore, and Astral emblems. Also got Fear. I was fiddling around with the arena a bit before moving on. I got as far as the B rank with Ratix. I seriously freaked out when I saw that the last battle of B rank is with a Star Seraph. Makes me wonder what the A rank finishes off with.

But I've started running into glitches with the game again. When I was playing two years ago, I got fed up trying to get through the trial cave without it glitching up at the boss. And then my hard drive crashed, and I lost all my progress in a number of games. :( SO froze up on me no less than 4 times yesterday. So I decided to play a little more of Torment since I'm getting fairly close to the end and I want to finish it before moving on to another PC RPG like Baldur's Gate 2 or Fallout.

I dunno if I'd play the LotR game or Super Ninja Boy. I want to at least finish Star Ocean, Romancing SaGa 3, and Tales of Phantasia before moving on to other SNES RPGs. (Though I was thinking about picking up a copy of Lufia 1 I saw at Gamestop.)

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From: kain611 | Posted: 1/26/2004 1:27:31 PM | Message Detail

Have 3 of the 4 emblems heading to the Sylvant ruins to "lose" Marvel. Screwed up and lost Tinek:-( should have SO beaten either tonight or tomorrow. Not sure if I'll get around to do the 7 star ruins though. Here's some suggestions of snes rpg's incase anyone is wondering.:-)

Lord of the Rings- supposedly damn near impossible without cheating.

Tales of Phantasia

Shin Megamei Tensai

Secret of Stars

Earthbound

Treasure Hunter G

Dual Orb 2

Treasure of the Rudras'

Secret of Evermore

Seiken Denetsu 3

Secret of Mana

Alachest

Lufia 1&2

Illusion of Gaia

Terranigma

Soul Blazer

um all i can think of that we could play in cart or rom format.(can you tell I'm bored)

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From: Fleck | Posted: 1/26/2004 1:41:27 PM | Message Detail

I don't think we should start another game, Crispy, until everyone who is actively playing Star Ocean is finished with the game. That way we can all start and, hopefully, finish together. I will say this, though... I think this concept worked better when we followed a walkthrough and set actual stopping points. That way we could all talk about our progress to that point and discuss strategy. It seems now like it has dissolved to "I am (insert location) with (insert stats)..." and no one is responding. I think that is what made Y's III so much fun.

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From: cloudsss | Posted: 1/26/2004 1:59:09 PM | Message Detail

I didnt relize you guys had gotten quite so far. Ive been busy but i should have the game beat by sunday. I think really doing good check points and everyone following them is a great idea. Id be happy to but i think at least two should be set before we start. From: kain611 | Posted: 1/26/2004 4:17:05 PM | Message Detail Check points would be great as would all using the same walkthrough to get those checkpoints. That way it would seem as more of a "community" effort.

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From: Crystal Knight Mog | Posted: 1/26/2004 6:07:29 PM | Message Detail

Can I sign up?

And I already beat Y's III (beat it like 10 times already)

I just stareted Romancign SaGa alittle bit ago..

and Im afew hours into Star Ocean.

It just so happened that I was playing these 2 games AS you guys were.. I never knew what this topic was about.. but it seems really cool. I read alot of this topic already.

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/26/2004 8:04:14 PM | Message Detail

Yeah, anyone can play.

think that is what made Y's III so much fun.

Strange, I had the least amount of fun on that game. That's probably because it was frustrating me, and because I was going so slow.

I'm not setting stop points, because last time that happened, one or two people would be past the stop point before we were actually supposed to stop, and others couldn't finish it in time.

Unlike a book, we can't really gauge how long it will take to get to a certain point in the game. It's not like I can just tell you to read the first 50 pages or so.

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From: kain611 | Posted: 1/26/2004 8:52:18 PM | Message Detail

Hey I know this is kinda off topic but here goes. Camden I remember you saying you just got your second copy of Unlimited Saga, was just wondering if I liked Saga games if I will like this or not? I love RS3, as well as Saga Frontier 1. I still have not played SF 2 but plan on buying that tomorrow. Was just wondering if you think I should grab Unlimited or wait and see if price drops.

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From: math deity | Posted: 1/26/2004 10:35:38 PM | Message Detail

Math Deity, have you beaten 7th Saga?

Nah. As much as usually enjoy games that require mad amounts of leveling (Dragon Warrior/Quest etc.) there seemed to be no reward for your work in 7th Saga. All you'd get for beating a boss is access to another boring dungeon with a boss that requires several hours of leveling to beat. I've only ever gotten as far as the 3rd or 4th dungeon before I found something better to play so who knows, it may open up more later. A nice skill or item system could have greatly improved it IMO.

I'll definately set some checkpoints for whatever game we choose. It's looking like the infamous Lord of the Rings will be the game so far.

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From: kain611 | Posted: 1/26/2004 10:50:23 PM | Message Detail

Woot! Lord of the Rings! On my way to see if I can find one at the local video store. If not have to use a rom :-(

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From: math deity | Posted: 1/26/2004 11:02:15 PM | Message Detail

Wait a few days kain. We haven't actually decided yet. It might still be Super Ninja Boy. Oh, and don't pay more than $5 for LotR; it's a wretched game.

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/27/2004 12:59:56 PM | Message Detail

kain: I like the game, but I can't recommend it to you or anyone else.

People are justified in hating the game, because very few people will like it. I'd suggest renting it, or if you can't do that, buy it used off of ebay, so if you don't like it, you aren't out as much.

I personally like Saga Frontier 2 the least out of the seven I've played. I haven't played the two originals, but they both look promising.

And hey, I set a checkpoint! Velcant Lair! It's not my fault everyone is farther than that and they didn't say so until it was too late.

*blames everyone else

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From: Delin | Posted: 1/27/2004 3:05:05 PM | Message Detail

Delin is still in he just hasn't been posting as much. I'll see if I can't catch up over then next week or so. Also, iIf it weren't for the fact that this is the only semi-working computer in the house I would have put a .45 cal bullet though it months ago. This POS computer...

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/27/2004 3:16:10 PM | Message Detail

Delin: I think we should have a crappy computer contest between Fleck, you and I. First round, how many bsod's do you get in an average week that you can't find a reason for!

I got so many that I eventually changed my bsods colors to black and pink.

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From: cloudsss | Posted: 1/28/2004 11:31:13 AM | Message Detail

Hey everybody. Ive been busy and I just started playing star ocean again today and i have a question. If you have ashlay but you dont break fear out of jail will fear eventually join your party or not. I looked at the guide but im still a little confused about this.

From: Revenant Being | Posted: 1/28/2004 12:22:03 PM | Message Detail

eh wat game is playing

From: Fleck | Posted: 1/28/2004 12:47:19 PM | Message Detail

We are playing Star Ocean at the moment.

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From: Delin | Posted: 1/28/2004 1:28:55 PM | Message Detail

My most interesting problem is that inorder to load ZSNES it take about 5 minutes. My computer hardware wise should, on paper, be good, but I think someone hacked in/I downloaded a new trojan and they are using my computer as a screen for thier more dubious activities. I think it is some 15-year-old kid with enough computer knowledge to do a little bit of hacking. Reason I think this is somehow the spyware on my machine keeps bring up porn site banners and pop-ups, yet this computer is not used in that fashion. This never would have happened if we had enough power to run a firewall. Oh well just another 3 months or so and my mom is going to buy a new family computer, then another 3 or 4 months after that I get my own when I go to college.

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/28/2004 3:54:16 PM | Message Detail

Bah. Adaware + Spybot = No Spyware

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From: Aurelious | Posted: 1/28/2004 3:57:04 PM | Message Detail

cloudsss: I think if you have Ashlay you won't have to break her out of jail. And yes she will join you later in the game

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From: Delin | Posted: 1/29/2004 1:32:54 PM | Message Detail

Not going to be able to play at all this weekend because I'm going up to Gatlinburg for a big Explorer convention/competition. I hope we win again.

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From: Camden | Posted: 1/29/2004 3:03:36 PM | Message Detail

What's Explorer? It sounds like a nature retreat or something.

I'm currently catching back up after my recent fight with stupidity, so I'm going to be lagging a lot. I'll probably end up finishing it on my own time, but I'll finish it.

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From: Mr Crispy | Posted: 1/30/2004 9:14:59 AM | Message Detail

Well, I got all the emblems. Now it's time to go back to Parj Temple.

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From: kain611 | Posted: 2/1/2004 10:15:41 AM | Message Detail

Well haven't been able to finish SO yet due to playing my Saturn lately. Have we picked our next game yet? By the way was that game Tech was going to pick Harvest Moon by chance? Cya later.

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From: Camden | Posted: 2/1/2004 2:44:39 PM | Message Detail

After my recent bout with stupidity, I had to start over, so I'm just making a quick run through the game. I'm not worried about leveling up at all, and I've probably missed anything side-quest related.

I'm just about to fight some boss in the Time Space Lab, so I think I'm getting toward the end. I've been occupied with Little Fighter recently.

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From: TechMaster | Posted: 2/1/2004 2:49:26 PM | Message Detail

My mom finally went back so I've finally got some more free time (although I'd wish to complete a project first before I'd be able to play much). Also, my linear algebra midterm (darn that they give us two midterms) is tomorrow and I got a lab the next day that I need to write up a prelab for, so that means no breaks for me tonight.

On a side note: Camden, ever heard of SCWU? (Super Cosplay War Ultra, good for anyone who likes anime out there)

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From: Camden | Posted: 2/1/2004 3:14:22 PM | Message Detail

Well, I don't really care for anime that much, especially since everything that gets dubbed has horrid voice actors, and everything that gets subbed is overall mediocre.

When did cosplay take off like it did? A few years ago, it was just a group of uber-geeks that wanted to dress up like Sephiroth, and now it seems like everyone takes part in it. Maybe I don't like it because I'm fat, and the choices or characters I could dress up like are limited.

I could probably be Cait Sith or Chongara. I'd probably get stopped at the airport if I dressed like Chongara though.</bad joke based on racial profiling>

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From: Mr Crispy | Posted: 2/2/2004 5:45:09 AM | Message Detail

Don't really have any time to play Star Ocean this week.

Class assignments have converged to make this a week of hell.

I have to give a speech on Wednesday, turn in a short paper for chemistry on Thursday, and turn in a Cobol program on Friday.

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From: TechMaster | Posted: 2/2/2004 10:35:43 AM | Message Detail

SCWU acutally made fun of the FFs since you mentioned Seph. There's Cloud with the squid and fat Yuna (puts up flame shield) if you want some laughs at FF cosplay (btw, they did that on purpose). The actual character cosplays are gundam (definitely not Gundam W, which sucked imo), Biohazard/Resident Evil, Virtual On, Naruto, old robots from the old gundam series but aren't gundams (old as in, old, MS08 and older), two EVA cosplays, three cosplay I'm not sure the English name is, and one cosplay if from some American scary movie mixed with a tiny bit of Hellsing in there. Anyways, it's your choice if you want to try it or not. But, seeing how much free time you have you should try it out even if you don't like anime.

Okay, I haven't seen/play half of the anime/games that the characters cosplayed and I enjoyed it.

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From: Camden | Posted: 2/2/2004 12:46:51 PM | Message Detail

Fat Yuna...

*dreams

Hell, that's another person I could dress up as! I'm up to three!

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From: Delin | Posted: 2/2/2004 1:38:04 PM | Message Detail

I'm back. One of the guys I roomed with brought an Xbox So I've finally played Halo. Only good thing on the system.

What's Explorer? It sounds like a nature retreat or something.

The Explorers are a co-ed branch of the Boy Scouts. We "explore" professions. The most well known Explorer groups are the police and fire groups. I'm in our local engineering post. Actually we went up there to ski, then compete in the engineering contest, which we came in second in. It was fun, but it's great to be home and get regular amounts of sleep. I also have a ton of catching up to do on the boards. They've been without my two-cents for a whole weekend.

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From: kain611 | Posted: 2/2/2004 5:51:31 PM | Message Detail

I'm back. One of the guys I roomed with brought an Xbox So I've finally played Halo. Only good thing on the system.

I beg to differ, Knights of the Old Republic is the best thing on Xbox. Also try Project Gotham Racing 2..sweet.

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From: Camden | Posted: 2/2/2004 6:12:46 PM | Message Detail

I'd also like to disagree. Halo is the single reason so many people on Gamefaqs hate the Xbox, because it's fanboy base rivals that of Final Fantasy 7. If they combined it with it's pc partner, it would be good, but both of them individually only have one good mode.

Kotor is from what little I've played a good game, and my friend just picked up Panzer Dragoon Orta and MechAssault cheap, both which look to be at least decent games.

On topic, I've just finished Star Ocean. No matter if we play Lord of the Rings or Ninja Boy, I'm going to play it, but don't expect me to keep up. Between Little Fighter 2, Unlimited Saga, Fire Emblem, Dynasty Warriors 4XL, Heroes 3 and Septerra Core, my play time is all but used up.

So if we actually use stopping points through the whole game, don't wait for me to get to them, because I'm going to be far behind.

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From: Delin | Posted: 2/2/2004 6:56:13 PM | Message Detail

OK let me repharse what I said earlier. It is the only good thing I've played on the system. Better?

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From: Camden | Posted: 2/2/2004 7:20:45 PM | Message Detail

Yes, yes it is.

*pets white cat and laughs maniacally

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From: kain611 | Posted: 2/2/2004 8:33:35 PM | Message Detail

Also I second that nod to Panzer Dragoon Orta as well as Mechassualt. Also try Otogi if you get a chance Camden its very very good. Also Unlimited Saga is pretty damn hard I'm finding. Fun but difficult. How far are you in Septerra Core? I couldn't play it long last time it was on my hard drive...problems shall we say. In other news anybody else try out Fallout, Brotherhood of Steel? Not to bad but wait till its like 20 bucks or so. I haven't played Star Ocean in more than a week but hope to start up again later this week. I vote we should extend the average day to 28 hours, 6 work, 12 gametime/girl time, 10 for sleeping....what ya think?

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From: cloudsss | Posted: 2/3/2004 11:58:44 AM | Message Detail

Im ready to play the next game whenever you guys are. lets at least make an effort to put in some stopping points or whatever.

I just played through tales of destiny since the first time I played it a few years back i had to stop cause I couldnt figure out the stupid password. Now im playing ff9 since i never could bring myself to finish it. In my opinion its not very good for a final fantasy game.

From: Camden | Posted: 2/3/2004 1:21:11 PM | Message Detail

Meh, I like Final Fantasy 9 a hell of a lot more than 7 or 10. The final few fights in the game weren't that hard for me, seeing as six of my eight characters did 9,999 every turn, but it was still fun.

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From: cloudsss | Posted: 2/4/2004 9:55:18 AM | Message Detail

I know this is off topic but, what do you think of ff6 camden. I like it but

Spoiler Spoiler

There is the little matter of the whole world getting wrecked. There is a lot of neat stuff in ff6 but i still dont know why it would be anyones faviorite. There are a ton of people who say its there faviorite final fantasy.

From: Camden | Posted: 2/4/2004 6:57:00 PM | Message Detail

I liked Final Fantasy 3 up until the point you mentioned. The story seemed to be completely drained at that point, and it was more of a hide and seek game trying to find all your damn people.

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From: Delin | Posted: 2/4/2004 7:24:00 PM | Message Detail

Not really the game pointed you in the direction of the couple other critical players (Terra, Seltzer(the gambler), and that was it?), but yes your right you did have to spend much time looking for your other characters unless you were already level 99 and could beat the goddesses and kefka with three.

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From: TechMaster | Posted: 2/5/2004 7:04:03 AM | Message Detail

I was actually annoyed by Locke's sidequest and the last dungeon more than the ruin of the world... Somehow, I just hate having to switch between groups and having to walk back and forth and if I made a mistake then it would be regoing through the whole dungeon again.

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 2/5/2004 8:45:44 AM | Message Detail

hmm... i enjoyed the second half of FF3. no, i'm not a writer or anyone who knows how a good story should flow, but i know what i like. i'm not really a fanboy, though i do like most every FF game. it does sort of seem to me now that it might have been an attempt to just draw the game on longer, but back when i was playing this game, it just amazed me that there was more to do. i liked the idea that my party got scattered all over the new world. it was really fun finding them and exploring the world of ruin. i liked how non-linear it was... that was pretty new for a FF game. and i'm a big sidequest guy, so i loved finding all the "secret" espers and weapons and characters and quests. i dunno, that game just really hit what i like in a game: loveable chars, great story with great plot-twists, good graphics, and great music.

sorry i ranted... i guess i'm closer to being a fanboy of this game than not. :P haha

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From: Camden | Posted: 2/5/2004 11:08:02 AM | Message Detail

but i know what i like.

Yeah... Well I got nothing, but I just felt like copy pasting something, and that sounds kind of funny out of context. A post from me wouldn't look right without some kind of irrelevant banter between myself and someone not looking to participate.

So who is still playing Star Ocean?

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/5/2004 2:10:03 PM | Message Detail

Is everybody up for moving on to the next game? Who still needs to finish and who is still around? Let's get a head count and say whether or not you are ready to move on.

Math Deity, you're up. What game shall we begin looking forward to?

BTW, if you are still playing Star Ocean and don't want to move on yet, just say that and we will wait a little bit, but if most of you are done, we should probably get the train moving again.

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From: math deity | Posted: 2/5/2004 3:36:41 PM | Message Detail

Let's play Lord of the Rings. I'm ready whenever.

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From: math deity | Posted: 2/5/2004 3:37:38 PM | Message Detail

*goes to check faq for some stopping points*

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From: Camden | Posted: 2/5/2004 3:48:31 PM | Message Detail

*goes to find a rom

*is still downloading the fighter Tech suggested, 41% done with approximetaly 6 hours left

Sigh... I wonder how many years it will be before I can afford something faster...

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From: Mr Crispy | Posted: 2/5/2004 6:30:30 PM | Message Detail

I'm still playing SO (and, um RS3 for that matter). I've had a lot of work to do this week for classes, but I'll try to finish up SO this weekend.

Though I don't think I'll play LotR.

I'll still try to post from time to time to see how things are going.

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From: kain611 | Posted: 2/5/2004 9:04:53 PM | Message Detail

I'm just finishing SO tonight so ready to move on to the next one....LOTR oh boy....going to need some help on this one. What faq we using for stopping points math? Oh by the way I'm a proud owner of a shiny new copy of Suikoden II for PSone8:) yeah for me.....

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From: math deity | Posted: 2/6/2004 3:07:59 AM | Message Detail

How about this one? The other is only 16k.

http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/snes/file/lord_of_the_rings_a.txt

How about we make Sunday the tentative starting date?

very slight spoilers

The first leg of the faq (Finding Pippen) doesn't take long if I recall so finishing the section entitled Gaffer's Glasses would probably be a good first checkpoint. Among other things that would require findings his glasses and a few other items. (a lot harder than it sounds, I think I've only gotten that far once).

Btw, I intend to post my passwords here as the little slips of paper I tend to jot them on fall victim to spills and loss far to often.

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 2/6/2004 8:19:51 AM | Message Detail

again, i'm not going to be able to play with you guys, but i'm going to try and play at the same time (i only got about halfway through Star Ocean). but oh well, it was still fun.

one question though: whatever happened to the discussion part of this whole thing?

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From: math deity | Posted: 2/8/2004 1:44:49 AM | Message Detail

Shall we begin LotR today?

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/8/2004 8:48:20 AM | Message Detail

I'm in. I'm probably going to start sometime this afternoon. I remember when I got the game, I got into the caves and got lost. That is the extent of my play with LotR. I am looking forward to beating it.

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From: UGA180 | Posted: 2/8/2004 9:38:01 AM | Message Detail

I have the cart somewhere at my grandparents house. I wish I could start today, but I'm at my dad's for the weekend and my SNES is at my Mom's.

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/8/2004 2:58:00 PM | Message Detail

That's OK, UGA180, we are just now starting and I don't think everyone is going to get around to it today anyway. As long as you catch up once you get started, you're golden.

BTW, I have started going into the caves trying to find the Gaffer's Glasses. Is there an easy way to regain energy? As of now I haven't found a way at all and I am perilously close to dying. Frodo and Pippin are both at level 2 and I am trying to level them up before I actually venture much into the caves. Any suggestions?

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 2/8/2004 3:46:48 PM | Message Detail

there are of course the mushrooms you can find in bags in some rooms... but also the luminous green portions of some walls (usually in a corner) are healing moss. i don't think there's any other way to heal.

Pippin pisses me off... all he does is die. he attacks literally 2 seconds late and he just gets romped on by these stupid bats. the hit detection isn't the best in this game so i have a hard time saving him. also, you can't bring anyone back to life, can you? once they're dead, they're gone. that sucks. i've had to reset like 4 times because of that. dammit.

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/8/2004 8:20:06 PM | Message Detail

So, I'm not one for cheating, but I found a pattern in the code system and have figured out how to level my characters up to level 9. I can't find the stupid glasses, though, but I think I have just about stumbled onto everything else there is in these caves. Anyway, the password I have right now is this:

...... LKWLKW

...... ......

.....K ...HKW

...... F...MF

The levels and inventory of the two characters has something to do with the top line and the H on the third line. I only used this method to level up the two a bit instead of aimlessly walking around and leveling up myself. If you change the two Ls up or down, your level goes with it, but you also have to change the H up or down two letters. I might use this later when I am wandering around leveling again and don't want to spend a lot of time doing so. I did go and get the daggers and padded armor by myself along with the gem and a mushroom, but I think I have figured out that code progression as well. I won't use it, though.

Patrick: Yes, the hit detection does suck on this game, which is probably what makes it so tough. I hate how Pippin just sits back and takes hits, but if his level is high enough, then its almost like having a shield for Frodo to romp on whatever else is on the screen.

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From: math deity | Posted: 2/9/2004 2:00:30 AM | Message Detail

*starts playing*

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/9/2004 3:00:18 PM | Message Detail

As of tonight, I will have reached the checkpoint. Who all is playing anyway?

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From: math deity | Posted: 2/9/2004 3:08:52 PM | Message Detail

Well, LotR is no Secret of Mana...

I'm done playing for today. I've reached the first checkpoint. I have both gems and returned the glasses to the gaffer. Frodo is level 9 and Pippen is level 7. I used the faq to find one of the gems; everything else I stumbled on. Btw, the orcs are great for leveling up, especially the one guarding the fern. He gives 8 experience per kill and you can use the fern to heal your injuries. I just wish there were no loading times. Here's my password.

_ _ T _ _ _ --- L K W J K W

_ _ _ _ _ _ --- _ _ _ _ _ _

B _ K _ _ L --- _ _ _ Y W 1

Inventory Code

_ _ _ _ _ _ --- F B _ _ R F

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/10/2004 7:24:53 AM | Message Detail

Is it just me, Math Deity, and Kain on this one?

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From: TechMaster | Posted: 2/10/2004 7:38:42 AM | Message Detail

Probably. Lotr isn't a game that I want to get into... (have bad memories of it...)

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From: math deity | Posted: 2/10/2004 12:53:04 PM | Message Detail

I guess it's just us three against the forces of Mordor >_>

The next checkpoint should be finishing the section entitled the barrow-downs I suppose. From glancing through the faq I would expect this to take several days if you don't use a guide. Here's what he has to say about the barrow-downs.

The Barrow-Downs is nothing short of GIGANTIC! If you thought the

Hobbiton Caves were big, you have a surprise coming here. The Barrow-Downs

consist of a multitude of caves connected across several large areas. Most

of them are relatively small, but the sheer size of the Barrow-Downs itself

is enough to confuse just about anybody. Be careful!

I'm quite tempted to just use the faq to get through them. It's been a long time since I made any maps (SoE probably). I think I'll give it a go on my own first but will probably resort to the faq at some point.

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From: young flip | Posted: 2/10/2004 1:15:06 PM | Message Detail

I want to join. *joins in*

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/10/2004 2:58:54 PM | Message Detail

UGA180 and young flip have said they are going to join in, so at least there will more than just three of us. It will be good to get fresh voices in here, too. Camden, are you going to play? What about you Mr. Crispy?

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From: Mr Crispy | Posted: 2/10/2004 3:14:10 PM | Message Detail

Nah, I'm not going to play. Rented LotR as a kid, didn't like it.

...Which reminds me, I never got a chance to play Star Ocean. Got too wrapped up in playing with Dizzy (in Guilty Gear X2) to try and beat it. Ah well, I'll just try and catch up before the next game.

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From: Delin | Posted: 2/10/2004 5:09:54 PM | Message Detail

FYI: I'm not going to play this one

If you want to know why read the beginning of my post in the RPG topic.

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/12/2004 8:25:41 AM | Message Detail

I haven't been able to play much these last couple of days. I got the glasses and went back to town to get Sam and haven't picked it back up yet. I plan on playing a little tonight. Has anyone gotten any farther than that yet?

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From: cloudsss | Posted: 2/12/2004 11:07:58 AM | Message Detail

I missed some school so i have a whole lot of catching up to do with that. not to mention Im not all that excited about playing lord of the rings. Im sure its an okay game but.......

I might play a little once I get some free time but I wont be doing much. of coures ill still post some and I should be able to play the next game normally.

From: cloudsss | Posted: 2/12/2004 11:23:04 AM | Message Detail

How do you take something somebody says and put it in italics at the top of your message.

From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 2/12/2004 1:16:46 PM | Message Detail

copy/paste it onto your message then put a (without spaces) in front of it and a behind it.

replacing the 'i' with a 'b' makes your text bold.

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From: Camden | Posted: 2/12/2004 4:10:15 PM | Message Detail

Camden, are you going to play?

I planned on playing, but I've yet to even download the rom, so it's sketchy. Between playing other games and arguing moot points in that best space shooter topic, I don't seem to be making any progress anywhere.

copy/paste it onto your message then put a (without spaces) in front of it and a behind it.

Patrick, you can make fake tags to show someone how to bold and italicize text.

and

To make fake tags, just use these:

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From: math deity | Posted: 2/13/2004 12:13:55 AM | Message Detail

I haven't played any more since my last post... the next part sounds so tough.

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/13/2004 6:58:38 PM | Message Detail

Yeah, this is a bit excruciating, really, but I AM going to finish this game. (no matter how many people leave us in the mean time)

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/13/2004 10:48:49 PM | Message Detail

OK, I am bored at 1:00 in the morning on a Friday night. I am playing this damn game and I can't figure out how to control Samwise. Does anyone know? He keeps getting his ass kicked and I want to level him up. Is there any way to do this? By the way, my new code is:

..T... LKWLKW

...... ......

B.K..L ...0W2

..B... FB..RF

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/13/2004 10:52:06 PM | Message Detail

By the way, MD, if you change the J to an L and the Y to a 0, then you will have Pippin up to level 9. I am still waiting to try and figure out the progression past that (I get weird codes on the level screen if I mess with it any more, even though the game loads).

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From: Camden | Posted: 2/13/2004 11:10:55 PM | Message Detail

OK, I am bored at 1:00 in the morning on a Friday night.

Conan's on! Go watch! It's Toronto week, and The Masturbating Bear has been on all three nights so far! Unless you don't like Conan. Even then, it's worth watching, just so you can see The Masturbating Bear.

The Masturbating Bear is autoflagged! OH NOES!

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/13/2004 11:20:10 PM | Message Detail

Alas, I missed Conan. Lame-ass Carson Daly is on. Meh. I hate that guy. Although he did bang Tara Reid...

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From: Camden | Posted: 2/13/2004 11:44:01 PM | Message Detail

How the hell did he get a Late Night comedy show anyhow? I didn't know NBC employed idiots, especially ones nicknamed "Tool". He at least sometimes has a funny comedian on, like Stephen Lynch, Jim Gaffigan or Zach Galafanackis(SP!?)

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From: math deity | Posted: 2/14/2004 1:50:47 AM | Message Detail

I explored a little beyond where Sam joins you and I couldn't control him at all. No idea why, holding R or L or both did nothing?

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From: Z3RO SoE | Posted: 2/14/2004 2:18:45 AM | Message Detail

If anyone's interested, you can get the maps for LotR here:

http://vimm.net/

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/14/2004 9:12:40 AM | Message Detail

I'll give you $100 for those maps! ;P Good to see your still around, Z3RO! Thanks for the maps!! Have you played this game?

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From: Z3RO SoE | Posted: 2/14/2004 9:50:04 AM | Message Detail

Dude!! If I have??? I'm the OFFICIALLY MASTER of this game! Check the LotR board!

But what are you guys up to? Do you just play this game, or you compete or something?

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/14/2004 10:31:36 AM | Message Detail

We're just playing it at the same time and discussing it as we go through. Same premise as before just different game. Wanna join? I am just about to enter the Barrow Downs now, so we aren't too far ahead really. Maybe you can help us out a bit. Do YOU know how to control Samwise? I really want to level him up a bit before I go into the Downs.

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From: Z3RO SoE | Posted: 2/14/2004 1:50:55 PM | Message Detail

Same premise as before just different game. Wanna join?

Yea! I have this game on Cart (and alot free time), so why not...

I am just about to enter the Barrow Downs now, so we aren't too far ahead really.

If you wont make it past the Barrow Downs, I can give you codes that let you start in Bree, or any other place in the game. I have all my codes written down on paper. I don't encourage you to cheat, but it might keep your interest in this game if you progress instead of being stuck on the same place. So just ask...

Maybe you can help us out a bit. Do YOU know how to control Samwise?

Ok, let me explain my theory:

Playing the Cart version on the SNES, you control Frodo with controller 1. The rest of your party is than controlled automatic by the AI. Once Aragon is found, player One control him instead of Frodo. If you want to play two players, a second controller must be connected to the SNES. Player two takes the control of Sam (or maybe Pippin).

Note that as long as the Controller two is connected to the SNES, that Gamepad is controlling Sam/Pippin. The only way to switch Sam/Pippin from human controlled to AI, is by disconnecting the controller two. By pressing and holding the "L" button on controller one, in two player mode) you are taking control of all the additional characters in your party and can move/fight/parry with them except Sam/Pippin who's controlled by the Second Gamepad. And here's the catch. The Emulator is programmed with an internal "Multitap", with at least TWO controllers that's ALWAYS connected to the "SNES in the Computer". Because of you can't disconnect the controllers from the Emulator, there's always a controller that takes the role of Sam/Pippin. And that wont let the AI take over, because the Emulator think it's someone who actually playing with the Second controller. That's why the "Can't control Sam" problem only occurs on the ROM version of SNES LotR.

I know that wasn't very good explained, but I hope you know what I mean... Otherwise, just ask me...

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From: Camden | Posted: 2/14/2004 6:21:53 PM | Message Detail

Actually, that was explained very well. I've officially started playing now, and I officially remember why I didn't care for the game the first time I tried playing it. Let's hope I have enough resolve to finish the first dungeon this time.

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/15/2004 11:29:02 AM | Message Detail

I am now ready to enter the Barrow Downs. I have leveled up all my characters and here is what it looks like:

Frodo: 19, Dagger/Padded Armor

Pippin: 19, Dagger/Padded Armor

Samwise: 9, Old Dagger/Cloth

Merry: 9, Old Dagger/Cloth

The code is:

L-TL-T 3KW3KW

------ ------

F-K-LN -T-2TB

--B--F FBF-SF

I started walking in the next area a little bit and actually got to the Barrow downs, but when I got there all my characters left (except Frodo). Is this supposed to happen? Any explanation? Or is this a bug in the game?

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/15/2004 12:58:21 PM | Message Detail

Where are the maps on that site, Z3RO?

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/15/2004 9:23:05 PM | Message Detail

Alright, I'm an idiot. I found Tom Bombadil and he got my peeps back from that damn tree. I'll venture into the downs maybe tomorrow. MD, are you still playing this or have you given up too?

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From: math deity | Posted: 2/16/2004 2:20:07 AM | Message Detail

I got distracted and then forgot about this. I'll start back up in about an hour. Thanks for the info Z3RO SoE.

Where did you level your guys up Fleck? My stats are still the same as they were earlier.

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From: math deity | Posted: 2/16/2004 4:19:47 AM | Message Detail

I lied >_<

My Dreamcast is calling me. It's been months since I warmed it up. I keep switching disks though, I can't decide whether to play Record of the Lodoss War or Time Stalkers.

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From: Z3RO SoE | Posted: 2/16/2004 4:46:13 AM | Message Detail

Where are the maps on that site, Z3RO?

You can either type Lord of the Rings in the Search field, or press the "L" button at the top of the page... Use your Imagination! ;)

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From: Z3RO SoE | Posted: 2/16/2004 4:52:20 AM | Message Detail

I found Tom Bombadil and he got my peeps back from that damn tree.

A funny thing. If you walk back to the Place where Merry joined you, after the Party has been eaten by the Tree, Merry will be there again, and join Frodo a Second time. Than you should walk to the Tree and get him eaten a second time. Now your old party will be lost forever, because Tom will only free the Second Merry out of the tree...Glitchy...

Note that you don't have to get your Party eaten by the Tree, just leave the "Item Bag" with the "Old Man Willow Note" alone and you don't have to worry...

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/16/2004 6:35:27 AM | Message Detail

I'm not that lame that I wouldn't even look at the page with Lord of the Rings, but there is nothing there but a download and it asks me to wait for an hour to get it. I just figured that was one of those things that mods like to get you for on this site because that site has those, too. I guess I'll just wait in line and get whatever information pops up.

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From: math deity | Posted: 2/16/2004 6:48:24 AM | Message Detail

Actually, I can't find any maps there either...

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From: Z3RO SoE | Posted: 2/16/2004 7:06:05 AM | Message Detail

The Maps are in the Manual of the Game.

Ok, go to the Lord of the Rings Section. Click on the name. A New window will pop up. Than Jump to page 8 (do it by selecting "Page 8" on the Scroll down menu at the bottom of the window). And there are all the maps from A to O.

Btw, I think my Maps are better, because I've made some notes on them (where you can find the Keys and to which door they lead). That's VERY useful in Moria. It saved me at least one hour the last time I beat the game... If anyone have Webspace or a Homepage, I can eMail them to that person so he/she can host them...

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/16/2004 7:13:48 AM | Message Detail

Mr. Crispy might be able to help you out with hosting those maps.

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/16/2004 7:18:08 AM | Message Detail

I found them. Are they not labeled at all (what they are actually maps of)?

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From: Z3RO SoE | Posted: 2/16/2004 7:35:51 AM | Message Detail

You know in the Game where you pick up an Item and it says "Picked up a Map", "Map C Entrence 2", than you can check on the map in the manual where the Exit of the Cave is. Just follow the path listed on the map...

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From: math deity | Posted: 2/16/2004 7:42:03 AM | Message Detail

What ZS said. I think they're maps of a stage we haven't gotten to yet.

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From: Z3RO SoE | Posted: 2/16/2004 7:48:08 AM | Message Detail

Yea, they are rather useless in the Barrow Downs but VERY useful in Moria!!!!111

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From: Z3RO SoE | Posted: 2/16/2004 7:51:15 AM | Message Detail

Oh, and another thing. Don't worry about Gateway Gems and Amulets. You can both enter Rivendell and Moria without them. A bug in the game I guess...

</Spoilers>

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/16/2004 7:54:18 AM | Message Detail

Of course they're useless where I need them now (sarcasm). I actually have the manual for this game. I guess I can just use that, huh? Duh! (I'm not the reddest apple on the tree apparently)

I wanted to run something by you guys. I think for the next game, I am going to give it it's own topic to try and drum up more interest. I think it would be fun if we had like 15 or 20 of us playing at the same time.

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From: math deity | Posted: 2/16/2004 8:08:33 AM | Message Detail

I agree. Sorry for basically losing interest in my own selection. (though I may yet regain it in time...)

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/16/2004 8:13:16 AM | Message Detail

Do you think it is possible to finish this game by next week?

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From: Z3RO SoE | Posted: 2/16/2004 8:26:31 AM | Message Detail

No... If you don't play as hell!

You can't Save/take Password in Moria, you have to start from Bree everytime you want to go there. It will take at least two hours to finish the Last part. Note that this is after you've beaten the Barrow Downs. And it is boring as hell...

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From: math deity | Posted: 2/16/2004 8:29:09 AM | Message Detail

Off the top of my head I'd guess it would take at least 5 solid sittings to finish the rest of LotR. I'd have no problem with dropping it altogether if ya'll want.

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From: math deity | Posted: 2/16/2004 8:30:06 AM | Message Detail

That may be Sauron speaking through me though...

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/16/2004 8:37:05 AM | Message Detail

If we dropped this game, it would be three in a row that I wouldn't finish. Now, granted, the last two were due to computer problems at home and I am going to eventually play those games again. But, if I don't play this game now, I am afraid I never will. I just don't want to take too much time away from everyone else who might want to play with us on a different game.

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From: math deity | Posted: 2/16/2004 8:42:22 AM | Message Detail

Onward then! I'm off to sleep.

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From: TechMaster | Posted: 2/16/2004 8:49:53 AM | Message Detail

Well, I'm suppose to pick the next game and just to tell you it's going to be strategy/rpg style. I'm actually thinking of changing it to something of the same genre. Fleck, should I post the choices now or do you want it to wait until you guys finish?

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From: Z3RO SoE | Posted: 2/16/2004 8:59:58 AM | Message Detail

Come on! We must finish this game!!!!111 We can't give up just like that!

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/16/2004 12:11:46 PM | Message Detail

Go ahead and wait, Tech, and when we finish this game, I will give it its own topic. I am going to make up some pretty easy rules that should be easy to follow and make it easier for people to join in and for people to keep up (still trying to figure it out, though, but I will). So, wait at least until we get pretty far into this one and then we'll cross that bridge. Camden, where are you, man? I know you said you were playing, but I haven't heard from you on this game since then. Kain, too.

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From: Mr Crispy | Posted: 2/16/2004 1:12:24 PM | Message Detail

Did someone call me? :)

I guess I might be able to put them on my geocities page...

Email me at ban5705@hotmail.com, and I'll see what I can do.

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From: Z3RO SoE | Posted: 2/16/2004 1:23:57 PM | Message Detail

Maps sent!

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From: Camden | Posted: 2/16/2004 8:21:16 PM | Message Detail

think for the next game, I am going to give it it's own topic to try and drum up more interest.

That's a good idea, seeing as people won't be scared entering a 350+ topic, but don't expect 15 or 20 people. First off, there just isn't that many people who care. Second, Tech is next, and if he picks one of the games I'm thinking of, then we'll be playing an untranslated game, i.e. it will probably just be me and him.

Do you think it is possible to finish this game by next week?

*looks at his save that's still in the first dungeon

I'm glad I told you not to wait for me :P

I just don't want to take too much time away from everyone else who might want to play with us on a different game.

Read my first response.

Well, I'm suppose to pick the next game and just to tell you it's going to be strategy/rpg style.

My guesses are still valid.

Fleck, should I post the choices now or do you want it to wait until you guys finish?

Choices? We get to choose ourselves? Yay!

Camden, where are you, man? I know you said you were playing, but I haven't heard from you on this game since then. Kain, too.

Like I said, I remember why I don't like the game, so I'm just going very slowly. I'm playing this like you're playing the last two; not trying to finish with everyone else, just finishing when you get time.

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From: TechMaster | Posted: 2/16/2004 8:38:22 PM | Message Detail

Yes, there's going to be choices. There's two games I'm leaning towards to. Both of them have walkthroughs to cover them up (although I'm sure Camden's already played one of them) so don't worry about the Japanese.

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From: Camden | Posted: 2/16/2004 8:48:38 PM | Message Detail

(although I'm sure Camden's already played one of them)

There went all my ideas...

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From: Mr Crispy | Posted: 2/17/2004 6:05:40 AM | Message Detail

I got your e-mail, but I can't download the maps for some reason. It gives me this "site not found/is not available" error when I go to download them.

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 2/17/2004 7:29:41 AM | Message Detail

well, i got to the part where you get Strider. that's about as far as i think i'll get.

well the original concept behind this 'Player's Club' was to stir up in-depth discussion about the games we play, was it not?

so... what are you people's thoughts on the game?

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/17/2004 8:38:27 AM | Message Detail

SO far, I am unimpressed. The controls suck, the hit detection is poor, and fact that everybody wanders the screen aimlessly getting their ass kicked really sucks. The graphics are fine, but once you've seen the first cave, you've obviously seen all the game has to offer, because it has all been the same since. Thank God I figured out the code progression so I don't have to wander around fighting wolves and snakes to level up four characters, one of which is impossible to move unless you have a four player adapter. The music is fine, but when I play stoned I have nightmares all night of little hobbits attacking me in the same cave over and over.

I didn't get to play much last night because I was re-living old college memories of Mario Party on N64 (yes, One2, the console sucks) and didn't get around to it. As much as I am putting it down, though, I WILL finish this game. I have heard of far too few people that have actually beaten it and I want to add my name to that list. I'm sure I will make Z3RO proud.

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From: Z3RO SoE | Posted: 2/17/2004 8:48:41 AM | Message Detail

You sure will, old friend... you sure will...

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From: Camden | Posted: 2/17/2004 4:56:10 PM | Message Detail

SO far, I am unimpressed.

That seems like too nice a description.

Well Camden, how do you feel?

*kicks a dog

I have heard of far too few people that have actually beaten it and I want to add my name to that list. I'm sure I will make Z3RO proud.

Even if I do eventually beat it, which is up in the air still, I don't want my name added to that list. As long as I haven't finished the game, I can put it down without trying it. If I actually finish, I'll feel obliged to give an honest opinion.

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From: Mr Crispy | Posted: 2/18/2004 8:41:12 AM | Message Detail

Well, it looks like I finally got the zip file to download... I'll try to update my page tonight.

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From: Z3RO SoE | Posted: 2/18/2004 12:36:33 PM | Message Detail

I am now ready to enter the Barrow Downs:

L-TL-T 3KW3KW

------ ------

F-K-LN -T-2TB

--B--F FBF-SF

Hey Fleck! I stole your password and started playing from there. I found one Amulet, and got to the Second Cave System... But When I saw all the Cave entrances (more than 15!!!11!1), I gave up for today... Will continue tomorrow I think... Password this far:

LTWLTT 3TY3KW

------------ -------------

HTQTLN - T - F1X

- - VCTF YBF - SF

Well, it looks like I finally got the zip file to download... I'll try to update my page tonight.

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From: Mr Crispy | Posted: 2/18/2004 3:48:15 PM | Message Detail

And it's posted!

www.geocities.com/dogrobot

(it should be there on the main page, both in the updates and the miscellaneous section)

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/19/2004 8:03:30 AM | Message Detail

I haven't gotten much farther, but I plan on playing some tonight. I plan on figuring out the level progression (past lvl 9 and 19) and getting all my people up to level 29. Once I get to Bree, I will post my password.

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From: Mr Crispy | Posted: 2/21/2004 11:48:33 AM | Message Detail

Has no one played in a while?

A little bump, just in case.

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From: snes o holic | Posted: 2/21/2004 10:02:29 PM | Message Detail

Hi.

Ive finally got round to downloading this game so I'm joining in.

I aint got much to do at uni this week so I'll try to catch up!

I remember reading a review of this game in a magazine saying it is **** but I dont care so I am going to give it a shot!

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/21/2004 11:33:09 PM | Message Detail

Sweet! I was beginning to think that I am the only one left playing this game. Math Deity chose it, but I don't think he is playing anymore. Let me know when you get to Bree and I will start back up again.

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From: Camden | Posted: 2/22/2004 12:36:22 AM | Message Detail

I want to play it, but I don't see it happening. The game irritates me to no end, and I'm not one of those people who say you have to finish a game or your opinion doesn't matter because "you didn't play far enough into it". I played far enough into it for now, and that's the end of the first area. At least I think it's the end.

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From: wolfshadow72 | Posted: 2/22/2004 12:47:20 AM | Message Detail

Ah, playing LoTR? I forget...was there just the one cart or was there 2 for this..? I can't remember..:(

I remember playing it back when it first came out, but I don't remember beating it...:(

If I can find a copy soon I'll join in. :)

*trudges off to ebay..then remembers she cant access ebay from work, dangit!!* Well, when I get home then...

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From: math deity | Posted: 2/22/2004 6:25:41 AM | Message Detail

Ah, playing LoTR? I forget...was there just the one cart or was there 2 for this..? I can't remember..:(

Only one cart thankfully >_>

Yeah Fleck I'm not playing it anymore. I apologize, I feel like the biggest horse's ass for picking the game and then abandoning it. I actually think LotR is a decent game, it might even deserve a 6/10 but I just can't deal with those dungeons. I should have picked a game most people say sucks that I believe has redeeming qualities (like my current obsession, Time Stalkers for DC). Ah well, good luck on completing it; I will be rooting for you all.

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From: Mr Crispy | Posted: 2/22/2004 7:10:34 AM | Message Detail

I remember seeing a Two Towers game for the PC in a similar style (so I assume it's the sequel) in a bargain bin a couple years back, but I didn't get it because I didn't like what I played of the SNES FotR.

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 2/22/2004 8:27:06 AM | Message Detail

well i tried to play but i got left way behind since i haven't really had time. who all's still playing? if someone gets near the end, can i have the password so i can beat the game and see the ending? :P

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From: snes o holic | Posted: 2/22/2004 10:28:53 AM | Message Detail

This game is better than I thought it would be.

Ive been playing it today and Ive got to BarrowDowns.

Sam is such a useless character, he just stands at the entrance to each screen.

Hopefully if all goes to plan tonite, by tomorrow I should be at Bree- lets hope i dont get lost in the barrow downs as i heard that they are huge.

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 2/22/2004 10:49:26 AM | Message Detail

i was playing off of Z3RO's password down there (at Barrow Downs) and yeah my Sam would just sit at the beginning of each screen, too. i was wondering if mine was the only one which did that... anyways how the hell do you get through the Downs? it's so... large...

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/22/2004 11:51:32 AM | Message Detail

I haven't had near as much time to play lately as I had hoped. I am glad we are picking up some stragglers. Let's all meet in Bree and go from there. Who all is playing, then?

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 2/22/2004 11:53:53 AM | Message Detail

give me your latest password and i'll play along for a little ways from there...

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/22/2004 12:13:47 PM | Message Detail

I think Z3RO's password is farther along, but mine has higher levels for all the characters. The last one I posted is the latest one I have written down.

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From: rockstar1xxx | Posted: 2/22/2004 12:14:33 PM | Message Detail

Can I join in right now? if not, i'll just wait for the neext game.

From: rockstar1xxx | Posted: 2/22/2004 12:15:41 PM | Message Detail

*next

From: Fleck | Posted: 2/22/2004 12:17:26 PM | Message Detail

You are more than welcome to join in. We are all trying to meet in Bree. It isn't very far into the game, so you can play till you get there, or you can grab one of our password off earlier posts and join in right away. We are using the bigger of the two walkthroughs on GameFAQs for checkpoints.

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 2/22/2004 12:45:29 PM | Message Detail

Bree is where you get Aragorn, right?

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/22/2004 12:47:35 PM | Message Detail

Yeah, I think that is right (haven't gotten there yet).

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 2/22/2004 1:13:47 PM | Message Detail

oh my gosh this game is so frustrating... i've only been playing for 20 minutes and already i want to throw this game in a large fire.

i swear i've looked everywhere for a way out of these Barrow Downs, but i can't find an exit.

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/22/2004 1:29:06 PM | Message Detail

I say it is OK to use a FAQ for the Barrow Downs. There isn't a map anywhere for them and the place is so damn huge. I am about to start playing for a while to see if I can get anywhere.

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From: Z3RO SoE | Posted: 2/22/2004 2:18:54 PM | Message Detail

No, please don't use the FaQ...

Now when I see that some more players joined in, I'll keep playing from my last save (earlier in this topic).

For me, the Barrow Downs is much more harder then Moria, because I have played the last part of this game too many times... So If you'll make it past the Barrow Downs, you just have one Big cave left except Moria...

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/22/2004 2:46:19 PM | Message Detail

I have been playing around in the Barrow Downs for the last hour and I feel like I have gotten nowhere. Here is my new code:

3TW3KW 3TW3KW

...... ......

HTQTLN .T.417

KCVCTF YBF.SF

Z3RO, what do you have against using a FAQ? If I am stuck, I have no qualms about looking at a FAQ to help me out.

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From: Z3RO SoE | Posted: 2/22/2004 3:03:35 PM | Message Detail

Ok, do as you want, but I consider FAQ looking as cheating. Exactly the same as using "Save States" on emulators... But I can actually understand you this time, because the Borrow Downs are Terrible...

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From: SuperNintendoGeneral | Posted: 2/22/2004 6:50:03 PM | Message Detail

I could see how you might see reading a FAQ as cheating, but save states? I don't see it as cheating, I just see it as something the developers should have added from the start of the genre. Having to replay six hours of a game because a boss attacked you at a completely random spot isn't fun. Save states correct the issue.

By the way, I'm still at the beginning. Don't expect me to be caught up until... oh... say... we finish the game Tech chooses and whatever game the next person chooses. I might be caught up by then.

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From: Delin | Posted: 2/22/2004 7:49:08 PM | Message Detail

Delin...Delin is the one that chooses after Tech. Delin is still debating on which game to choose. Delin wishes that you will all take your time to get to the next game by mid-March (spring break). Why is Delin speaking in the third person? He doesn't know. (Twilight Zone music)

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From: Camden | Posted: 2/22/2004 9:58:18 PM | Message Detail

He doesn't know.

It should be "Delin doesn't know.". I don't know what game Tech is choosing, but I don't think we'll be finishing in two weeks. I assume LotR will take whoever is trying to finish in a reasonable amount of time at least another four or five days, so you'll probably be choosing late-march.

Do you have an idea which game you'll be picking?

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From: Z3RO SoE | Posted: 2/23/2004 2:08:57 AM | Message Detail

I could see how you might see reading a FAQ as cheating, but save states? I don't see it as cheating, I just see it as something the developers should have added from the start of the genre.

Yea maybe, but they didn't...

So you think it's ok to save before a boss fight, so you can start exactly from there once you loose? And not call it cheating? lol.... LotR can be beaten in two days using Save States, but the thing is that you should keep playing (and start all over once you die) till you know the game and know exactly where to go. But with save states, you never have to start over, because you "can't" die, you just start from your last save and keep all your lives.

My friend,

Using Save States in a SNES game is 100% cheating...

Try to beat LotR on the Cart version, THAT's a challenge.

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From: snes o holic | Posted: 2/23/2004 6:55:51 AM | Message Detail

I think I was being a bit ambitious by saying I would be at

bree today. Im stuck in the barrow downs.

I had to pick up from someone else password as I copyed my

last one down wrongly- The password system is stupid why couldnt

the developers had save files like most other games?

If anyone cares hers my current password:

LKWLKT 3TW3KW

...... ......

GTLTLN .T.WW4

L.V.TF YBF.SF

Im so far resisting the urge to use a FAQ but

if im still in the barrow downs at this time tommorrow I might.

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From: Z3RO SoE | Posted: 2/23/2004 7:14:52 AM | Message Detail

YAY!!!!! I'm at Bree now!!!

The Barrow Downs (I started at the place with the poles)took me exactly 1 Hour and 15 Minutes. Ok, here's a few tips for you who haven't beaten The Barrow Downs yet.

1) Check EVERY single entrance, and don't be confused if it's many of them. I think about 70% of the Cave entrances are not necessary to enter.

2) Once you're in a cave and enter a new screen that looks like it'll lead to a bigger cave system, make sure that you have checked every scene before that part, just to make sure that you haven't missed any key item.

3) When you end up in front of the Master Door (A bigger door then the normally doors) that'll lead out of the Barrow Downs, and can't find any key that'll open it. This happened me) Go back two sections until you find a place filled with entrances, with cloud in the Air. Take the middle right door and you'll have the final Key.

4) Once you arrived to Bree, take the Password and DOUBLE CHECK that you wrote it correctly. This is very important, because it contains so many characters that It's easy to miss one...

Ok, hope that'll help someone... Here's my password this far:

T2YLTY - 3Y3TW

- - - - - - - - - - - -

JTQ8NN - T - VKC

- - ZCT - YBY - RF

I'll wont continue until we all are at Bree...

Good Luck all!

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/23/2004 7:32:43 AM | Message Detail

OK, just to get a head count (I don't know why), this is who I have that are playing Lord of the Rings:

Fleck

Math Deity (Are you dropping out?)

Z3RO SoE

PatrickPS2

Camden (Even though he won't finish it with us)

Wolfshadow72 (Did you get a copy yet?)

Snes o holic

rockstar1xxx (??)

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 2/23/2004 7:33:50 AM | Message Detail

copies Z3RO's password.

*glances around nervously*

it's ok, people, i'm a profesional cheater. i got through, let's see... 2 years of junior high, 4 years of high school, and 3 semesters of college (so far) by cheating. it's ingrained into my brain. if i don't cheat, then i'll die. so really, i'd be cheating myself if i DIDN'T cheat.

[justification for cheating acheived]

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From: Z3RO SoE | Posted: 2/23/2004 9:13:01 AM | Message Detail

I heard that you made it to Bree too, PatrickPS2.

Good Job!! I didn't knew that you where a LotR pro. Let's wait for those slow ones to catch up, then we'll continue all together...

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From: snes o holic | Posted: 2/23/2004 10:16:33 AM | Message Detail

Yes!!!!

After 3 hours and 43 minutes I have finally reached Bree!

That is a relief.

That BarrowDowns really sucked, so glad to have finished it.

I am soo never going to play this game again after I finish it!

Heres my code at Bree.

L2YT2W B3Y32W

...... ......

JV78NN .T..3N

K.ZCT. YBY.RG

I trebled checked that!

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From: snes o holic | Posted: 2/23/2004 10:17:29 AM | Message Detail

Thats 2 hours 43 min- not 3 hours!

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From: Z3RO SoE | Posted: 2/23/2004 10:37:07 AM | Message Detail

Very God Job!!! Honestly, I'm very impressed...

High Score List:

1) Z3RO: 1 hour and 15 minutes

2) PatrickPS2: 1 hour and 15 minutes

3) snes o holic: 2 hours and 43 minutes

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From: SuperNintendoGeneral | Posted: 2/23/2004 12:13:22 PM | Message Detail

So you think it's ok to save before a boss fight, so you can start exactly from there once you loose?

Yes. Usually after I die, and then realize that I lost a few hours a gameplay, I just sit the controller down and stop playing. It's usually quite a long time before I start again.

And not call it cheating?

Err...no.

till you know the game and know exactly where to go.

I play games for fun. Memorizing large maps is tedious, not fun.

Try to beat LotR on the Cart version, THAT's a challenge.

Even with save states, it doesn't look like I'll be beating the game. I'm sure leveling up to Lv99 in Secret of Mana before the Mantis Ant is a challenge as well, but I'm not going to do it.

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 2/23/2004 1:50:30 PM | Message Detail

yeah i'm sort of with Camden on this one.

if people want to cheat, i don't mind... i only play the game to enjoy it. if an 'infintite health' code helps me enjoy the game more, so be it. if a save state is used right before a boss fight whereas normally the last save point would be 20 minutes of gameplay ago, then it's all good. i'm like Camden, if i die and realize i've lost an hour of gameplay (hell, even 10 minutes), then most probably i'll set the controller down and switch it over to watching tv.

i can definitely see the point in trying to beat a game with challenges (i.e. - no savestates, cartridge only) then that's all you. more power to ya! :P i just have niether the time or patience to attempt anything like that.

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From: TechMaster | Posted: 2/23/2004 2:04:54 PM | Message Detail

Spoilers?

Heh, talking about save states and cheating. Personally, it's sort of cheating. However, I hate to say it but sometimes I "have" to use savestates. It's either that or when my mom finds out I'm playing games and I have to shut the game down in merely second you think I have the time to save the normal way? Don't think so. Also, there's times (namely Dual Orb 2) when the party is stuck (literally) in a dungeon with a ****ing hard boss (cough, if you play the game and haven't upgraded any weapon to lv20 and try to fight the later bosses, you'll feel what I felt), you'll wish that you have save states that lets you backtrack (all my normal saves were in that damn dungon -.-). Same with the above posters. I hate to see hours (or even minutes) of gameplay wasted. I really don't want to go through the dungeon again if I died in a boss fight. As for cheating... Well, only sort of cheats in Der Langrisser lately (and that's like a year ago) and I only used its original cheat feature in the game that allows player to access different levels. Basically used that to get levels and such that's all and makes lives easier. Of course, my characters still die when enemy mages start casting area magics, and the bosses can still kill my leader if I'm not careful. But, not having to worry so much about levels made it fun, and that'll be enough for a game to give me. (I can sense hard core strategy gamers start yelling at me)

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From: matthewcarter50 | Posted: 2/23/2004 2:51:33 PM | Message Detail

Hmm... I suppose if it's not too late, i'll try this. I have the game.... got it for free from a friend who hated it. I got to the cave part before and gave up on it. I suppose it could be a decent game though.... Why couldn't you have picked Ninja Boy? (Loves Super Ninja Boy). I presume it's too late too sign up for the picking....

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 2/23/2004 2:57:03 PM | Message Detail

nah... Fleck'll put you on the game picking list, though you'll be about 4 or 5 games down.

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From: Camden | Posted: 2/23/2004 3:09:15 PM | Message Detail

It's never to late to be put on the list, you just get added to the bottom. This means it will probably be six months before we get to you. It could be less, but I don't know where the last updated version of Flecks list is, so I can't tell you who's in front of you.

Oh well, I picked my game already. Now I'm just along for the ride, until we derail and die in a massive ball of fire.

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From: Delin | Posted: 2/23/2004 4:52:42 PM | Message Detail

Oh well, I picked my game already. Now I'm just along for the ride, until we derail and die in a massive ball of fire.

YEA!!!!!!! FIRE!!!!!!! YEA!!!!! etc.

Good thing I took a break to "help" my grades. 54 school days. 54 school days. (till graduation)

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/23/2004 6:24:49 PM | Message Detail

It doesn't look like I am going to catch up tonight. I came home for lunch today and found our new cat dead in the garage. I have been pretty bummed all day and haven't been motivated to do anything. If any of you remember the story of my kitten jumping up to grab my controller cord and inadvertently erasing my save on Lufia II, he was the one. Really sucks. So, since tonight I am going to bed early and tomorrow is Fat Tuesday and I am not going to pass up the opportunity to look at hooters, I will catch up to Bree on Wed. Feel free to go on ahead without me.

BTW, welcome matthewcarter50. I will get an updated list up tomorrow sometime.

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From: bushi boy | Posted: 2/23/2004 6:28:01 PM | Message Detail

oh! oh! i want in!

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From: matthewcarter50 | Posted: 2/24/2004 11:39:49 AM | Message Detail

Ah, yes. Made it through the Barrow Downs. Am I supposed to post my password? After finishing it, I looked at the faq... and I missed an amulet. Gah. Not going through that again. I'll just use someone elses password at Bree. I'll post mine... Now.

L20T20 -30320

------ ------

JTQ8NN -T-NKC

Inventory Code

--ZCT- YBY-RF

There....

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 2/24/2004 11:48:26 AM | Message Detail

whoa MC you just flew through that, didn't you? how long did it take you to get through the Downs?

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From: kain611 | Posted: 2/24/2004 3:28:33 PM | Message Detail

Well I hate being a quiter so I'm going to try and finish this game. So count me back in ...... for now at least.

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/24/2004 8:40:45 PM | Message Detail

I finally made it. I didn't time myself, but I am guessing around 2 hours in the Downs. My code is:

32Y3TY -3Y-TW

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JTQ85N -T-V2P

KCZCT- YBY-RF

There is actually a good group forming for this one. Who all have not yet made it to Bree? (BTW, Math Deity, I hope you don't mind me taking over.) Once we are all ready to move on, I will set the next check point.

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From: matthewcarter50 | Posted: 2/25/2004 11:44:27 AM | Message Detail

I'd say about 2 hours. I only used 3 keys. Though I missed an amulet.... hope that the next checkpoint is set up soon.....

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From: Z3RO SoE | Posted: 2/25/2004 11:59:58 AM | Message Detail

The next checkpoint should be to reach and open the Moria Gate. That's about 1 - 2 Hours gameplay I think... And once the Gate is open, you can take the password and keep the door open for the next time you'll play...

Well Fleck, you're the boss, what do you say?

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/25/2004 12:40:53 PM | Message Detail

That sounds good to me. Ready......................................................................... GO!

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/25/2004 1:13:11 PM | Message Detail

So, here is the new list of people who have signed up and in what order:

Fleck (Ys III: Wanderers from Ys)

PatrickPS2 (Romancing SaGa 3)

Teath/Camden (Star Ocean)

Math Deity (Lord of the Rings) (Current Game)

TechMaster (...next to pick)

Delin

Mr. Crispy

Z3RO SoE

jimjim142

Cloudsss

Drake

Kain611

Crystal Knight Mog (Noted interest, are you still joining?)

Reverent Being (Also noted interest...)

UGA180 (What about you?)

young flip (...or you?)

snes o holic

wolfshadow72

rockstar1xxx (Another who noted interest...)

matthewcarter50

bushi boy

This is what I have written as people have noted interest. Just because you are not playing the current game doesn't mean you can't play, but I would like to get a more accurate list of people that are actually going to play, now and in the future. If you have a comment next to your name it is because you only posted once and we haven't heard from you since.

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 2/25/2004 1:16:44 PM | Message Detail

what's with the archer chick saying something like 'there's really two gems in the Barrow Downs. you should go back and get the second before heading on to Rivendell.' i'm using Z3R0's password... so did you get both gems, Z3R0?

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/25/2004 1:43:52 PM | Message Detail

I got both gems. You can use my password.

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From: Z3RO SoE | Posted: 2/25/2004 1:57:03 PM | Message Detail

No, I got both Gems. But I ignored a Amulet...

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/25/2004 2:03:10 PM | Message Detail

I got both amulets, too.

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From: kain611 | Posted: 2/25/2004 2:29:45 PM | Message Detail

I'm not to Bree yet but I'll try to catch up to ya for the Moria's Gate.

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From: Camden | Posted: 2/25/2004 5:36:15 PM | Message Detail

Fleck (Ys III: Wanderers from Ys)

PatrickPS2 (Romancing SaGa 3)

Teath/Camden (Star Ocean)

Math Deity (Lord of the Rings) (Current Game)

TechMaster (...next to pick)

Delin

Mr. Crispy

Z3RO SoE

jimjim142

Cloudsss

Drake

Kain611

Crystal Knight Mog (Noted interest, are you still joining?)

Reverent Being (Also noted interest...)

UGA180 (What about you?)

young flip (...or you?)

snes o holic

wolfshadow72

rockstar1xxx (Another who noted interest...)

matthewcarter50

bushi boy

First off, you don't need to write Teath next to me anymore, it's in the Pending Closure state, though it's going to be there a while, what with one of it's active messages being on Message Board Announcements.

Second, JESUS THAT LIST IS ****ING HUGE!! We should try some kind of roll call to even see if half of those people still visit this board. Jesus, that thing tripled since you last posted it.

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/25/2004 5:51:00 PM | Message Detail

I just copy/pasted so next time I will erase Teath. As far as the length of the list goes, I was surprised too. The last one I posted ended with Kain611, so we have added about double what we had. I am optimistic that once we start posting games as individual topics, more people will join in.

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From: Camden | Posted: 2/25/2004 6:08:54 PM | Message Detail

I am optimistic that once we start posting games as individual topics, more people will join in.

So are we going to attempt finishing Lord of the Rings by the end of this topic? I just got to the Downs, and from what you guys have said, I'll be there for quite a while. The next game will be Techs choice, so most people will probably wait until it's Delins turn before joining in, because there are too few people who aren't apprehensive about playing a non-translated sfc game.

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/25/2004 6:12:23 PM | Message Detail

You might try using my password from right before the downs and just go into every cave. My levels were pretty high and I didn't have any trouble. It will take you about two hours, but what else have you got to do? ;P

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From: Camden | Posted: 2/25/2004 6:17:00 PM | Message Detail

but what else have you got to do? ;P

Slowly die of alcohol poisoning and repeated beatings from my abusive girlfriend.

...

Who the hell am I kidding, I don't drink or have a girlfriend. I just can't bring myself to play more than 15-20 minutes a day.

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From: snes o holic | Posted: 2/25/2004 6:20:32 PM | Message Detail

Just noticed something interesting for those people playing LotR on a emulator.

When you give aragron the kingsfoil you controls will no longer work! Its because aragron gets assigned to control setup 1 and the hobbits to control setup 2. What your need to do is config input #2 on the emulator and use those controls untill aragorn joins properly. Also when you talk to Aragorn after giving him the kingsfoil nothing will happen for about 30 secs because samwise is been moved by the game from the entrance to bree up to the prancing pony.

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From: snes o holic | Posted: 2/25/2004 6:25:55 PM | Message Detail

**** i just realised something else, as soon as you lead your hobbits out of bree with conrol setup 2 and Aragron joins you so he is now the leader so you need to go back to control setup 1 to control him, merry, sam and pippen. Now frodo doesnt move just like sam didnt before.

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From: Delin | Posted: 2/25/2004 7:24:13 PM | Message Detail

Actually I'm currently thinking Live a Live, but I still can't decide.

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 2/25/2004 7:53:17 PM | Message Detail

damn... i used Fleck's password, got a ways past it, then Pippin or someone weak died, so i hit rewind, and the game freezes. :P just my luck. dammit.

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From: Camden | Posted: 2/25/2004 8:48:29 PM | Message Detail

Actually I'm currently thinking Live a Live, but I still can't decide.

Good, I've still got a save on that game. I can let you guys catch up to me while I finish LotR and Tech's choice.

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From: TechMaster | Posted: 2/26/2004 7:05:55 AM | Message Detail

Mine might end up being a translated SFC game, but it will still be a strategy rpg and it 'will' not be Live A Live so don't worry if I steal your game Delin.

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From: matthewcarter50 | Posted: 2/26/2004 11:35:44 AM | Message Detail Hey, Fleck's password is missing the Red Gateway Gem... and an amulet. Did you type it in right? Pippin is level 00 too.....

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/26/2004 12:30:44 PM | Message Detail

Which password? Maybe I typed a letter/number wrong here. All characters should be at level 19/20, there should be 4 gateway gems and two amulets. I haven't looked at the FAQ since Z3RO made me feel like a big fat cheater, but I looked through each cave pretty thoroughly. Let me know what I am missing...

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From: Camden | Posted: 2/26/2004 12:36:24 PM | Message Detail

Mine might end up being a translated SFC game, but it will still be a strategy rpg

That narrows the choices down a bit. Bahamut Lagoon, FEDA, SRW3 and Jyutei Senki(sp) are the only four translated that I can think of. Jyutei Senki is probably the only game you could name that I wouldn't even give a chance, I hate that game. Lord of the Rings is so much better.

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From: TechMaster | Posted: 2/26/2004 1:06:51 PM | Message Detail

Like I said some time ago, there will be choices so you guys can avoid games that you "really" don't want to play. Jutei Senki is one title I avoided as well. Tried it before, but it sucked. Yeah, you can count that one out.

Btw, the games I'm choosing will have at least a walkthrough if it has not been translated into English, so don't worry if you can't read the Japanese. You'll have walkthroughs at your desposal.

Btw, isn't Front Mission a strategy rpg? I'm not gonna pick it, but just pointing that out since it's also fan translated.

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From: Camden | Posted: 2/26/2004 1:22:28 PM | Message Detail

Doh, Front Mission! I own that one, and still forgot about it! Speaking of strategy rpgs I own, what's the story with the FE4 translation? I remember reading somewhere that someone picked up the old unfinished work and is attempting to complete it.

Yeah, you can count that one out.

*does cartwheels

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From: snes o holic | Posted: 2/26/2004 7:19:23 PM | Message Detail

Someone mentioned Front mission, I was playing that a month or so back- its cool as ****. I am crap at front mission but if anyone wants to play it count me in!

I am bored of lotr but I want to finish it.

If the next game is a jap game I will give it a go, I may be ****ed at the moment but any game is fine by me.

Ive been playing Lufia recently while ive been waiting for people to get to bree- that games grea.t

**** I shuldnt be posting atthe moment, i am to ****ed.

Out of interest would "The Firemen" be a ok game to play? I know i have ages to wait but I played it the other day and it is really good!

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 2/26/2004 7:56:42 PM | Message Detail

man i want someone to pick a Lufia game... i haven't played one of those in so damn long. :P

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From: Camden | Posted: 2/26/2004 11:28:33 PM | Message Detail

man i want someone to pick a Lufia game... i haven't played one of those in so damn long. :P

Why didn't you pick one? You had the second pick in this. I think the only reason I'm even playing LotR anymore is because I want to write a review for it and put another 3-4K on my contributor page.

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From: matthewcarter50 | Posted: 2/27/2004 12:07:44 PM | Message Detail

The final Gateway Gem (Red) is in the Downs, and I believe that another Amulet is too. Pippin is also level 00, like I said. Look at the FAQ if you need too, don't feel bad, you beat the place.

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 2/27/2004 3:02:20 PM | Message Detail

i didn't pick a Lufia because i didn't want to play one then.

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From: Camden | Posted: 2/27/2004 4:02:21 PM | Message Detail

i didn't pick a Lufia because i didn't want to play one then.

Well, if you still visit Gamefaqs in July 2005, then your pick will have come around again. If you've got nothing better to do with your life, I'll see you then. I've been coming here for too many years to just stop now.

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From: Delin | Posted: 2/27/2004 6:37:17 PM | Message Detail

I'll still be around then. I might have more of a life or I might not. I think I'll be like Fleck and be here until I'm old. [cackle]

*Looks over shoulder for Fleck*

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From: Camden | Posted: 2/27/2004 8:30:37 PM | Message Detail

OLD'D

Poor Fleck...

I just felt like absolving into that LUE fad...

I'm not even sure what the hell absolving means, but my basic comprehension tells me that it fits in the above sentence nicely.

I'm still in the Downs. I've made virtually no progress, and I probably won't for quite a while. My latest round of CD's I bought online came today, and I'm giving them a test whirl. Lacuna Coil + Stratovarius = Parents saying "what the hell are you listening to?"

Maybe I'll play a little more tomorrow.

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From: viewtifulreed22 | Posted: 2/27/2004 9:28:09 PM | Message Detail

Hey, this sounds cool, count me in.

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/27/2004 11:50:02 PM | Message Detail

Does anyone have a code with all five gateway gems and all three amulets? I have tried to go backwards and find that damn red gem, but I can't find it and none of your codes have it either. My new code up to now is:

320320 L30320

---32T ------

JTQ85N -T-R2-

KCZCTC YBYB8G

BTW, I have no idea how I came up with Athelas Major. I was trying to break code to level people up and ended up with it. I almost have this code system worked out (with the exception of location codes), so if someone has a code with the red gateway gem, I am pretty sure I can figure out how to just add it to my existing code.

Z3RO, don't worry, I am not using my code breaking abilities to cheat aside from a little minor leveling up here and there so I don't have to spend the time doing it.

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From: Z3RO SoE | Posted: 2/28/2004 2:58:48 AM | Message Detail

Ok, here's a random code of mine with the red Gateway Gem resent. (Don't flame me if it doesn't, or if the code is dead, because I haven't checked it):

T2YL2Y WK5K2Y

G2TZ2T T2T---

BV7995 CT56ZY

PHYCY- 6GWH8B

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From: Delin | Posted: 2/28/2004 6:05:35 AM | Message Detail

ab·solve ( P ) Pronunciation Key (b-zlv, -slv)

tr.v. ab·solved, ab·solv·ing, ab·solves

To pronounce clear of guilt or blame.

To relieve of a requirement or obligation.

To grant a remission of sin to.

To pardon or remit (a sin).

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[Middle English absolven, from Latin absolvere. See absolute.]

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ab·solva·ble adj.

ab·solver n.

So no Camden you did not use that correctly.

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From: PatrickPS2 | Posted: 2/28/2004 6:36:54 AM | Message Detail

welcome to the club viewtifulreed22... as you can see, this is a tightly knit social group which very few can enter. however YOU, my friend, have been chosen. err wait. nevermind.

heh yeah dude pick up the game (rom or cartridge), steal a password from somebody (or start from the beginning if you have infinite patience), and join the discussion... i'm sure Fleck will stick your name on the game picking list, though you'll be a ways down. just make sure you keep posting or you'll lost your spot!

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/28/2004 9:20:21 AM | Message Detail

Z3RO, do you have a code that is at Bree with all five gems? That code has more characters and is in Rivendell.

BTW, I am about to give this game its own topic. Four more posts and this topic will be closed, so it will need its own. I want to be done with this game by Friday so we can name a new game, get the topic started, get a head count and start playing by Sunday. Is that good for everyone? It looks to me that, besides leveling, there is only about 7-8 hours of gameplay left on this game. Is that about right Z3RO?

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From: matthewcarter50 | Posted: 2/28/2004 10:42:47 AM | Message Detail

Well, if I could find the Gem in my file, would you be able to make use of it? Or should I use your password. Yeah, i'll use yours. Anyway, I hope we can get this finished soon, even though it won't be for a while, i've got a few ideas for my game.... if it ever gets to me.

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/28/2004 12:08:51 PM | Message Detail

I tried your password and you only have four gems, too.

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From: matthewcarter50 | Posted: 2/28/2004 12:11:39 PM | Message Detail

That wasn't what I meant. I was planning on finding the Red Gem... with your password....

AND I HAVE!

Yes, here is the password, with the Red Gem.

320320 L30320

---32T ------

JTQ95N -T-R3M

PCZCTC ZGZB8G

I double checked it. With the Gem, everything else that Fleck had. I hope this helps.

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From: Fleck | Posted: 2/28/2004 12:18:15 PM | Message Detail

You are the man! (or the woman... Damn Internet anonymity!)

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